Highest practical Sack Attack score

[murdomeek]

Originally Posted by richard60

i was told Murdomeek was not playing this year???????????

who told you that?
we will be in the college div this year

but hopefully our region tournament manager will have local "world Cups" (like NZ) that allows college teams to make high school legal robots and compete throughout the year to gain experience

Originally Posted by Ephemeral_Being

I have time.

"For a Scoring Object to count under either clause, it must remain in a scored position if/when all robots are removed from the field."

There to have it. Robots cannot be supporting the game objects IN ANY WAY.

im pretty sure if there is any "question" to if a robot is supporting a stack or not, you can just remove the robot from the field and see if the stack topples?

[Vex Mundi]

Originally Posted by murdomeek

hopefully our region tournament manager will have local "world Cups" (like NZ) that allows college teams to make high school legal robots and compete throughout the year to gain experience

Our field is the same this year, so you can compete (informally) directly against high school teams using your College robots. Play 2 minute matches where they do 15/1:45 and you do 60/60

If you organise something like that with a nearby school team a couple of times then by worlds you'll have more experience with the game than most College teams have in previous years.

The odds are probably in the school team's favour, but on the other hand we've yet to see what kind of 24" monstrosity you guys come up with. The extra 2 motors will probably help a lot, but less so with the 393 rule since this season motor power will be limited more by what the cortex can handle than by what motors are allowed.

[The VEX Raptors]

Originally Posted by Vex Mundi

Our field is the same this year, so you can compete (informally) directly against high school teams using your College robots. Play 2 minute matches where they do 15/1:45 and you do 60/60

I believe it was you that stated in my thread about the hybrid Gateway field that competing autonomously against a driver-controlled robot is unfair.

[Vex Mundi]

No, this was my reply to your thread (you mentioned that MSU couldn't score in the opponents' 30" goals at that point):

Originally Posted by Vex Mundi

Easy way to beat MSU: score in their 30s early while leaving yours empty, then when their 30s fill up you have all the time you need to fill your own.

Unfortunately I didn't remember this strategy for use at worlds, but we did beat MSU .

I think a hybrid high school/college gateway field would have worked ok for driver practice for both high school and college. The problem with it (and the high school vs. college games I'm suggesting) is that it wouldn't be possible to practice the appropriate strategies. But it makes sense to get the driving sorted first and work on driving strategically later.

[Disciple855]

Originally Posted by The VEX Raptors

I believe it was you that stated in my thread about the hybrid Gateway field that competing autonomously against a driver-controlled robot is unfair.

I think I was the one who said that.

[The VEX Raptors]

Originally Posted by Vex Mundi

No, this was my reply to your thread (you mentioned that MSU couldn't score in the opponents' 30" goals at that point):
Unfortunately I didn't remember this strategy for use at worlds, but we did beat MSU .

I think a hybrid high school/college gateway field would have worked ok for driver practice for both high school and college. The problem with it (and the high school vs. college games I'm suggesting) is that it wouldn't be possible to practice the appropriate strategies. But it makes sense to get the driving sorted first and work on driving strategically later.

Ah, yes. The MSU coach wasn't quite happy with me for revealing that.

The fact that Sack Attack has no mechanical field differences between college and high school makes HS vs. College much easier this year. But I suppose a college team with a sizable budget could build 4 robots and scrimmage with themselves.

Originally Posted by Disciple855

I think I was the one who said that.

Oh, sorry. I guess I should've actually checked the thread before I made assumptions.

[Disciple855]

Originally Posted by The VEX Raptors

Oh, sorry. I guess I should've actually checked the thread before I made assumptions.

It's fine As a certain 254 member would say, don't worry about it.

[dontworryaboutit]

Originally Posted by Disciple855

It's fine As a certain 254 member would say, don't worry about it.

Who would that be?


This thread seems to have gotten derailed a tad bit.

So for robot skills at worlds, I'm going to predict
+60pts for all 4 bonus sacks in the 30" goal
+40pts for 4 more sacks in the high goal
+435pts for 87 sacks scored in the troughs
+10pts for parking bonus
=
545 points

But realistically I'm going to go with 400 points.

Now in a match, I would say
+10pts for autonomous bonus
+60pts for all 4 bonus sacks in the 30" goal
+350pts for 70 sacks scored in the troughs
+10pts for parking bonus
=
430 points
is the most you'll ever see

[Ephemeral_Being]

Yeah, 350-400 should be possible to score.

[The VEX Raptors]

Originally Posted by dontworryaboutit

Who would that be?


This thread seems to have gotten derailed a tad bit.

So for robot skills at worlds, I'm going to predict
+60pts for all 4 bonus sacks in the 30" goal
+40pts for 4 more sacks in the high goal
+435pts for 87 sacks scored in the troughs
+10pts for parking bonus
=
545 points

But realistically I'm going to go with 400 points.

Now in a match, I would say
+10pts for autonomous bonus
+60pts for all 4 bonus sacks in the 30" goal
+350pts for 70 sacks scored in the troughs
+10pts for parking bonus
=
430 points
is the most you'll ever see

What about blowouts? Say there were 2 super-efficient robots vs. 2 squarebots that stop working 10 seconds into the match?