One Motor Mobile Goal - Advice?

  1. 5 weeks ago

    dsivo

    Jan 14 Hopkinton MA 2602H

    So... my team is currently doing a redesign on our mobile goal lift in order to use an extra pair of motors on our arm. Does anyone have any advice, pictures or anything else that could help me build a one motor mobile goal lift?? I know I need a 1:7 ratio, but I don't know how a proper lift that is stable throughout its rise and fall.

    For reference, here is my current lift : 536900036.jpg

    Thanks!!

  2. I've seen many teams use rubber bands.

    example1
    here specifically 8059A

  3. Baguette123

    Jan 14 Earth 2775J

    Basically, you use a relatively short arm on an 84-tooth gear, and attach a 12 tooth gear using some kind of frame. Place this in the center of your robot, with a motor on the 12 tooth gear. Then, add your lift attached to two short bars at the front, and attach the back to your original frame. Kind of complicated, but you will understand eventually.

    Check out this:

  4. NightsRosario

    Jan 14 Reisterstown/Catonsville, MD 3922A

    If you want to do a one motor mobile goal intake then you could make a lever system. Basically, just make a 4-bar with the range of motion you want with screw joints. Connect the 2 sides with a bar on the top. Then, you can make a standoff joint with the bar on top and a c-channel on a gear bot or directly to the gear in the gearbox. This makes a basic lever system in which when the gearbox moves the standoff (Acting as the lever) which in turn moves the 4-bar. It's fairly simple to make and works fairly well. A good example of this system is 9065C's robot at their Thomas Jefferson tournament.

  5. Baguette123

    Jan 14 Earth 2775J

    @NightsRosario That's pretty similar to what I described, aside from the standoff.

  6. NightsRosario

    Jan 14 Reisterstown/Catonsville, MD 3922A

    @Baguette123 @NightsRosario That's pretty similar to what I described, aside from the standoff.

    I tend to use standoffs for mogo intakes and other things due to the weight saving and the fact that the range of motion in a 4-bar with standoffs is larger than with c-channels.

  7. Cmills1352

    Jan 14 Hazel Green, Alabama 8685C

    We did 1 high torque motor lifting a forklift with a 1/10 gear ratio (82:12 attached to 36:12 gear ratio). The string causes it to tilt up as you lift so the cone wont wall off.

  8. NightsRosario

    Jan 14 Reisterstown/Catonsville, MD 3922A

    @Cmills1352 We did 1 high torque motor lifting a forklift with a 1/10 gear ratio (82:12 attached to 36:12 gear ratio). The string causes it to tilt up as you lift so the cone wont wall off.

    1.) When doing compound ratios, you multiply the ratios whereas you have added them.
    2.) That is overkill for a mogo intake. That would take forever and it has unnecessary torque

  9. Cmills1352

    Jan 14 Hazel Green, Alabama 8685C

    I done goofed on them calculations. Today we had a competition and we've never had any problems with it taking "forever". In every match we got every mobile goal into the 20/10 point zone with a few cones on top, with the exception of when lost because we didn't put our second battery on. It started life with just 82:12 and that wasn't enough so we added the 36:12.

  10. blatwell

    Jan 14 Event Partner Indianapolis 621A

    Our two middle school teams are using 1:7 gearing with a 4 bar. It works really well. They are actually planning on going to a 1:5 ratio so they can be a bit faster. Right now, they are getting 104 in driving skills with about 4 seconds left. They hope to increase that by a cone or two.

  11. NXOdyssey6364A

    Jan 14 Texas-MS 6364A

    can say the 7 : 1 on a torque motor works ;however, it is fairly slow. right now I've seen a few teams get away with using a 5:1 on one torque motor without rubber bands (which i am currently using).

  12. NightsRosario

    Jan 14 Reisterstown/Catonsville, MD 3922A

    @NXOdyssey6364A can say the 7 : 1 on a torque motor works ;however, it is fairly slow. right now I've seen a few teams get away with using a 5:1 on one torque motor without rubber bands (which i am currently using).

    Or you could do a 1:5 HS, which is what I'm using.

 

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