Legality of PROS with v5 cortex and new game

  1. last week

    What is the legality of using PROS (Purdue Robotics Operating System) on the new v5 cortex, and in the new game? Thanks in advance.

  2. nenik

    May 17 V5 Beta Tester

    Perfectly legal, why it shouldn't be?

  3. edjubuh

    May 17 V5 Beta Moderator West Lafayette, IN

    @epedemont What is the legality of using PROS (Purdue Robotics Operating System) on the new v5 cortex, and in the new game? Thanks in advance.

    PROS has been, and always will be, legal for use in every VEX game.

  4. Rick TYler

    May 17 Teachers/Coaches, Event Partner, V5 Beta Moderator Redmond, Washington Founder of Exothermic Robotics

    And, please, it's "V5 brain" not "V5 Cortex."

  5. Wiredcat Robotics

    May 17 Neuqua Valley High School | Na... 2360 N, V, H, S, A, X, Z

    Its legal, but it's not supported so if you have a problem with using PROS, you might have trouble getting help. Use it anyway because it's probably going to be better than VCS.

  6. Easton

    May 17 GA, USA 1958A

    @Wiredcat Robotics Its legal, but it's not supported so if you have a problem with using PROS, you might have trouble getting help. Use it anyway because it's probably going to be better than VCS.

    It's not officially supported by VEX, that doesn't mean there isn't a community of people that use PROS that would be willing to help (there is).

  7. dbenderpt

    May 17 Indianapolis, Indiana 6842

    Additionally about PROS, their documentation (that's found on their website) is very helpful. It makes learning the language much easier, especially after you have the basics.

    I haven't used CodingStudio with v5 yet, but PROS is a really cool system and I would highly recommend that you check it out.

  8. lacsap

    May 17 Event Partner, V5 Beta Tester Massachusetts 9791[a-z]

    @Rick TYler And, please, it's "V5 brain" not "V5 Cortex."

    Actually, it is "V5 Robot Brain" and not "V5 Brain" :)

  9. rbenasutti

    May 17 Worcester, MA WPI1

    @Wiredcat Robotics Its legal, but it's not supported so if you have a problem with using PROS, you might have trouble getting help. Use it anyway because it's probably going to be better than VCS.

    It is supported for the V5 system.

  10. Edited last week by The Electrobotz

    @Wiredcat Robotics Its legal, but it's not supported so if you have a problem with using PROS, you might have trouble getting help. Use it anyway because it's probably going to be better than VCS.

    Even though it isn't "supported" by VEX, considering VEX worked with the PROS team during the development of V5, I'd say that VEX is definite "supporting" it, if that makes any sense.

  11. Wiredcat Robotics

    May 18 Neuqua Valley High School | Na... 2360 N, V, H, S, A, X, Z

    @rbenasutti It is supported for the V5 system.

    @The Electrobotz Even though it isn't "supported" by VEX, considering VEX worked with the PROS team during the development of V5, I'd say that VEX is definite "supporting" it, if that makes any sense.

    Bit of a miscommunication with the meaning of "Supported",
    https://www.vexrobotics.com/vexedr/resources/programming
    At the bottom of the page its listed as an option but it's not an officially supported option meaning that you can use it but they don't recommend it for some reason.

  12. Barin

    May 18 Arizona
    Edited last week by Barin

    @Wiredcat Robotics Bit of a miscommunication with the meaning of "Supported",
    https://www.vexrobotics.com/vexedr/resources/programming
    At the bottom of the page its listed as an option but it's not an officially supported option meaning that you can use it but they don't recommend it for some reason.

    It's not that they don't recommend it per se*. You just won't get any official support from VEX for it. Basically, if you decide to use PROS and ask about it in the Official Tech Support channel (or equivalent), you are not guaranteed a helpful answer – you may well get a canned response.

    *One of the reasons for including the note is to discourage complete novices (that may have trouble with RobotC, let alone PROS) from trying to use PROS. Why is this important? Because VEX needs to maintain their brand image as a good educational robotics platform. Without the note, many would imply that VEX, by linking PROS on their website, at least supports, if not endorses, PROS. This would force VEX to either pay entirely out of their own pocket to support PROS or risk their brand image by failing to [provide means to] educate users about PROS.

    @The Electrobotz Even though it isn't "supported" by VEX, considering VEX worked with the PROS team during the development of V5, I'd say that VEX is definite "supporting" it, if that makes any sense.

    VEX is supporting the existence and, to a lesser degree, development of PROS. VEX is not guaranteeing technical support availability for PROS, which is what support means in the context of the statement on the VEX website .

  13. rbenasutti

    May 18 Worcester, MA WPI1

    @Wiredcat Robotics Bit of a miscommunication with the meaning of "Supported",
    https://www.vexrobotics.com/vexedr/resources/programming
    At the bottom of the page its listed as an option but it's not an officially supported option meaning that you can use it but they don't recommend it for some reason.

    Ok, I wanted to make that distinction clear. VEX has been involved with PROS throughout their development cycle. But yes, they don't recommend it because they are also the ones selling VCS ;)

 

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