VEX Coding Studio and V5 Updates

  1. 4 weeks ago

    DRow

    Aug 20 Administrator Greenville, TX 148B (Alumni, 2009-10)
    Edited 4 weeks ago by DRow

    All,

    We are happy to finally announce the public release of VEX Coding Studio v1.0.

    VEX Coding Studio is now currently available for Windows and Mac. While we are super excited about our Mac integration (which is an added feature for those who are accustomed to ROBOTC), we have a team of programmers already working to add in compatibility with Chromebook, iOS, Android and VEX IQ. That’s right, VEX users will be able to use the exact same programming software for their entire time in VEX. We will keep you updated with our release schedule once we get closer to the finish line. In the meantime, VEX IQ and Legacy Cortex users will still be able to use Modkit and ROBOTC in its current state.

    Download links for VEX Coding Studio can be found here:
    https://link.vex.com/downloads/vcs-pc
    https://link.vex.com/downloads/vcs-mac

    We designed VEX Coding Studio to be the “go-to” programming suite of languages for VEX EDR customers upgrading to the new V5 control system. Additional features of VCS include using it to teach your Vision Sensor , and to push any V5 software updates to your devices in real time. Every time you launch VCS, it will scan and download any needed software updates and then alert you that your V5 Robot Brain needs a VEXos update. Once the Brain is up to date, all V5 smart device updates will then be seamlessly downloaded the next time the device is plugged into your V5 Robot Brain.

    We've done our best to iron out any bugs that may exist in VEX Coding Studio. However, as with any other software launch known to mankind, we’re only human and we will be the first to admit there’s bound to be a few things we've missed. If you run across something in VCS that just doesn't feel right, we want to know more about your experience so that we can improve upon the product. This is our first foray into developing programming languages for our hardware, and we are excited to hear your feedback! If you have any bugs to report, or general system feedback, please send us an email at "support@vex.com" detailing the issue. (Please be sure to also include screenshots if possible). We’ll also be monitoring the forum should you find it easier to post here.

    Here are a couple of other important resources that we believe will be helpful as you play around with VCS. We will continue to populate these resources with information, especially as questions start coming in:
    VCS API Command Reference - http://help.vexcodingstudio.com
    V5 Knowledge Base - https://vex.helpscoutdocs.com

    “But DRow, what about V5 Hardware?”

    While this may be a software update, we know most of you are also scratching your head wondering where the heck your V5 hardware is. As you can imagine, we’ve been “all hands on deck” working to provide you with a suitable update.
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    Now that we're getting close to actually shipping the products, we want to be completely transparent about our plans for going through these orders. Due to the higher than expected initial order demand, we are going to handle pre-orders in a phased release schedule. Following are the details for US orders:

    • Pre-orders will follow the same first-in, first-out fulfillment schedule as standard VEX orders. If you pre-ordered on May 1, you will be among the first to receive your order.
    • First to ship will be any V5 System Bundle pre-orders placed prior to July 31, 2018.
    • Barring any major setbacks, we are still on track to ship out any pre-ordered V5 System Bundle that we received before July 31, 2018, by August 31st.
    • After the pre-August 1 orders have been fulfilled, any remaining trade-ins will be prioritized
    • Pre-ordered V5 Classroom & Competition Starter Kits will begin shipping in late September
    • Pre-ordered V5 Classroom & Competition Super Kits will begin shipping in late October
    • Any orders that we received after July 31 should ship 6-8 weeks after they were purchased. We will have a better delivery estimate for these once the initial run of pre-orders have been worked through.
    • Pre-orders of individual components will begin shipping in August and continue through October. Here is a more detailed outline of dates for when we are currently expecting pre-ordered individual components to ship.

    Note: These dates should also apply to most orders placed through resellers.

    Also note: The dates above and below are for US orders. All V5 kits and bundles will be starting in our US headquarters. As soon as the kits are ready and those US orders start shipping, an amount proportionate to each international region's pre-orders will be shipped to their respective international warehouse. Due to shipping time, customs, processing, etc, international orders should be getting to your hands roughly a month (hopefully less) after these US dates.

    Final note: If you ordered V5 Smart Motors with your System Bundle, those will be shipped at the same time. (Within a reasonable amount. If you ordered 200 motors, you probably won't receive all of them :) )

    Timeline:

    August:

    • V5 Smart Motor (Includes 18:1 Gear Ratio)
    • V5 Smart Cables & Cable Tools

    September:

    • Vision Sensor
    • V5 Robot Battery
    • V5 Battery Chargers
    • Individual V5 Smart Motor Gear Cartridges (6:1, 18:1. 36:1)

    October

    • V5 Robot Brain
    • V5 Robot Radio
    • V5 Controller

    For those who participated in our trade-in program, we understand your pain. This is exactly why we are putting as many of the incoming components towards your System Bundles as possible, and updating the expected ship dates of kits and individual components accordingly. (This is why we had to update some of the lead times of kits and individual components on our website.) Beyond the production delays that hit us, we were simply blown away (read: not prepared) for the level of initial demand. We appreciate each and every one of you who has chosen to be a VEX customer and we are doing everything we can to make this situation right.

    If you have any questions or concerns about your V5 order, please e-mail "sales@vex.com".

    We’re sorry for not being clearer about the product and shipping delays before now. We truly just didn’t want to provide an update until we ourselves better understood where things stood. We understand the frustration that some of you may have regarding the "radio silence" when it comes to V5. We’re changing that as of today.

    This product line overhaul has been a labor of love that we simply refused to release until we believed it was ready. And at long last, we think? it's time.
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    We hope that all will be forgiven once you're able to get this new system into your hands, and experience just how cool this new technology is. From the entire team at VEX Robotics, we sincerely appreciate your patience and hope that this update provides you with some peace of mind.

    Thanks,
    - Dillon

  2. M8R

    Aug 20 Los Angeles, California 7700
    Edited 4 weeks ago by M8R

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  6. jack202020

    Aug 20 Syracuse, Indiana 574D

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  7. NightsRosario

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  9. [TVA]Connor

    Aug 20 South Texas 1814D
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  11. marsgate17

    Aug 20 Syracuse, IN 574C

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    Aug 20 California
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  13. Alright, so once DRow deletes all the pog champs and this thread becomes a discussion about v5, there are a few things I'd like to say.

    - Obviously vex is having some issues shipping on time. Production is undeniably tedious, but the constantly changing estimates for when it will ship are a serious issue. It was the "new product reveal" at vex worlds 2017, then they said it would ship in January of 2018, then in January they said it wouldn't ship until 2018 worlds, then they said it wouldn't ship until August, and now we're finding out for everyone that didn't pre order months ago, it won't be usable for competitions until October. I'd recommend that teams start building with 393s because we have absolutely no guarantee vex won't just keep shifting the deadlines back until 2019 or even until worlds. I have no insight into this, but the production team has lost all credibility because they keep shifting their release dates by huge margins.

    - Once someone does get v5s, it'd be very helpful if they could announce it on the forums or on discord so we have a sense of when it will actually ship. Whoever gets v5's first batch, please let us know!

    -The new coding interface also looks really nice. I haven't done much in it but it looks a lot more flexible and easy to use than traditional robotC. Thank you to the software team!

    - And let's not forget that v5 hardware also looks pretty spectacular, more powerful motors and vision sensors seem awesome and it's hard to complain about a better cortex either. If vex is able to get v5 out at a reasonable time, it's going to be pretty cool :P

    Thanks for the updates DRow!

  14. pruckelshaus

    Aug 20 Malvern, PA 7517[A-K]

    I'd recommend that teams start building with 393s

    Unless, of course, you're like us and have no cortexes or vexnet keys at all...because you sent them in the trade-in program.

  15. @DRow ....
    Now that we're getting close to actually shipping the products, we want to be completely transparent about our plans for going through these orders. ...

    Thanks very much for getting the software out to us and for posting updates on the hardware shipment dates.

    As part of this transparency policy, can you also tell us anything about what's happening with the stocks of 393 motors, older type Cortexes, older type battery chargers, older type batteries, etc. that are now listed as "out of stock"? A lot of kids won't be getting the V5 in time to start their season, so they will be using - or at least wanting to use - the old 393 stuff they have already started with. So is the "out of stock" notice just a way to prod people toward ordering the new V5 stuff or is it, like, a real situation? Like, if the kids burn up their old Cortex or 393 motors, they really, honestly won't be able to get a replacement any time soon?

  16. If anyone needs v4 cortexes I have a few extras I could ship to you at a way reduced price. Just DM me or hit me up on discord.

  17. Ryan_26982E

    Aug 21 Boerne, Texas 26982E

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  18. action000

    Aug 21 Event Partner

    Thank you for the update!!!!!!! I know it is hard decide whether to be transparent and give people your honest best guess or give them little info and a safe date out further. Some will be furious at the first date that is missed. I appreciate the updates even if it is not exactly what you want to hear as it allows us to plan accordingly.

    I'm assuming that the VCS is only C++ or ModKit at this time? We'd be very interested in Python.

    Also a little concerned regarding the statement about the motors. It is a bit difficult to build robots with the new V5 brain if you don't have enough motors. Any best guesses how long until all the orders of motors are fulfilled?

  19. tabor473

    Aug 21 V5 Beta Tester OYES, WPI
    Edited 4 weeks ago by tabor473

    @action000
    I'm assuming that the VCS is only C++ or ModKit at this time? We'd be very interested in Python.

    Just use Robot Mesh Studio.

  20. action000

    Aug 21 Event Partner

    @tabor473 Just use Robot Mesh Studio.

    Thinking about it and have provided Robot Mesh with some feedback that we would like to see ... and are more than willing to pay it.

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