Which strategies do you think may be banned in the next game manual update?

  1. 6 weeks ago

    meepmeepme

    Dec 4 Honolulu, Hawaii (Saint Louis ... 42700B/C

    Strayegies such as outside cap descoring

  2. OscarMNOVA12

    Dec 4 Event Partner, V5 Beta Tester Northern VA and Pittsburgh MASON, 12, 22172

    Outside cap descoring has already had a rule preventing the intentional version of it.

  3. Joey The Great

    Dec 4 Suspended Maryland 24k

    i hope they don't ban side parking on the center platform, also, there is a slight loop hole in the rules where a robot could touch the high flags by jumping

  4. 687a

    Dec 4 California 687A

    @Joey The Great Why would they ban side parking?

  5. @687a @Joey The Great Why would they ban side parking?

    Why would they ban skills and bo3? The GDC and RECF operate in strange ways...

  6. Royal_Freedom

    Dec 4 Washington State 3249Z -- O.O.F.

    Oh god they could ban side parking?!? That would completely screw over my team and our robot design if that happens.

  7. pkrish

    Dec 4 8675B

    Unless you have a drive that is 5" high centered with the wheels to that size,

  8. 536Mentor

    Dec 4 Event Partner, V5 Beta Tester Appleton, WI 536

    @Joey The Great i hope they don't ban side parking on the center platform, also, there is a slight loop hole in the rules where a robot could touch the high flags by jumping

    I do NOT agree that there is a loophole at all.

    <SG2> Robot expansion is limited once the Match begins. As per <G3>, at the beginning of a Match, each Robot must be smaller than a volume of 18” (457.2 mm) long by 18” (457.2 mm) wide by 18” (457.2 mm) tall.
    a. Once the Match begins, a Robot which is contacting the Expansion Zone may expand vertically with no height limit. However, once fully outside of the Expansion Zone (i.e. no longer contacting it), the Robot must return to a height limit of 18” (457.2 mm) tall.
    b. Once the Match begins, Robots may expand, but no horizontal dimension can exceed 36” (914.4 mm) at any point during the Match.
    c. As a result of this rule, Robots may not contact High Flags.
    Note: A Robot which interferes with gameplay as a result of violating this rule, such as Toggling a High Flag or blocking a launched Ball while outside of the Expansion Zone, will result in a Disqualification, whether the interference is Match Affecting or not.

    <SG7> Use Game Objects for gameplay. Game Objects cannot be used to accomplish actions that would be otherwise illegal if they were attempted by Robot mechanisms.
    a. High Flags may only be contacted by Balls that are not being contacted by a Robot.
    Note the two bold parts of the two rules shown above. Particularly SG7, this would preclude a robot jumping to toggle a high goal.

  9. meepmeepme

    Dec 4 Honolulu, Hawaii (Saint Louis ... 42700B/C

    what is center parking? Tipping your bot and driving directly from the ground up to the center tile? That sounds a little OP to me...

  10. It's not as over powered as it sounds.
    One of our competitions had two bots capable of side parking reliably, but only one ever successfully did it in a match.

  11. BBBcube3.14

    Dec 4 Middle of Nowhere 8410C

    Plus it would give an extreme advantage, back in SD we have several robots that try to get on the platforms but get stuck on the alliance platform. If you can go directly onto the center platform you don't have to worry about the other robot getting stuck on the alliance platform.

  12. JuiceBox

    Dec 4 Ohio 6741E

    @Anomaly Why would they ban skills and bo3? The GDC and RECF operate in strange ways...

    with skills and bo3 they had reasons for what they did, although many disagree with those reasons they still had them but what could possibly compel them to ban side parking.

  13. I agree, vex won't ban side parking due to the fact that they encourage ingenuity.

  14. [TVA]Connor

    Dec 4 South Texas 1814D

    Hoarding – A Robot status. A Robot is Hoarding if it is actively blocking opposing Robot access to
    more than two (2) Balls, or more than one (1) Cap, in any of the four (4) corners of the field (i.e.
    positioned in the corner roughly the size of one foam field tile). See <SG5>.

    According to the rules you are allowed to hoard more than two objects, and block access to a hoard as long as the hoarded objects are not in the four corners of the perimeter. (i.e. You can hoard objects in the "corners" made by the flag poles and it's perfectly legal, regardless of how much you defend the objects.

  15. sabarrett328

    Dec 4 Grand Blanc, MI 46838C Major Trouble

    I probably missed the memo...
    What is side parking?

  16. Its when a robot gets on the yellow from the foam tiles, I've seen a couple bots do it.

  17. sabarrett328

    Dec 4 Grand Blanc, MI 46838C Major Trouble

    aahhh... we were debating figuring out a way to do this.

    That makes more sense than what I was thinking... getting to the yellow, then flipping yourself over to make it harder to be pushed off.

  18. You can try a bogie drive, but it takes up a lot of motors.

  19. sabarrett328

    Dec 4 Grand Blanc, MI 46838C Major Trouble

    The girls are thinking of a rebuild for the robot. I'll be following this thread.

  20. meepmeepme

    Dec 4 Honolulu, Hawaii (Saint Louis ... 42700B/C

    what method would you use to boost yourself up to the yellow platform from the side?

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