Based on the weight and shape of the mobile goal, scoring it in the 20 point zone will be challenging. Compounding the challenge is trying to do so with any cones stacked. I’d put scoring a mobile goal with more than 1 stacked cone as more technically challenging than lifting in NBN. At least in NBN the weight could be pulled towards your COG. What are other’s thoughts on this and any ideas they would care to share?
I don’t have any conclusions yet, but just my observations on getting a mobile goal into the 20 pt zone…
Pro’s
You don’t have to lift the goal very high (~2.5")
You only have to do it once
You should be able to push the mobile goal into the 10 point zone
Con’s
In general the lift is going to be away from your center of gravity
It’s heavy
It’s an awkward shape
You can only score one, so too much specialization here could reduce your effectiveness in scoring in other zones
You can fit all 4 mobile bases in the 10 pt zone, and you can still get the highest stack bonus in the 10pt zone, and u can only really stack 6-10 on the mobile base in the 20 pt zone (they start bouncing off if you drop them). The maximum net pts. is -10, and that will be easy to make up b/c u can practically stack more in the 10pt zone.
I think much like hanging this year, getting it into the 20 point zone will not be very prevalent early season, but by worlds, every team will be able to do it.
@structural bEaring but, almost no one hung at worlds? And the 20 point zone is so easy to get to, its an integral part of this game, and yiu would be missing lots of points if you didnt do 20 point zone
I agree
I expect many, if not most teams will build a goal picker-upper that can drop at least the goal (and maybe at lease 1 stacked cone) over the pipe. All our Virus teams are thinking about that.
@PSR_12 Who said you weren’t able to stack more than 10? That’s only if you drop the goal. Your assumption that stacking 6-10 is the max in the 20 point zone is just just wrong. Maybe you should broaden your thinking when approaching this game.
@structural bEaring Idk what your thinking, but hanging was actually incredibly useful and very prevalent at the states level and in some cases even earlier in the season. Almost no teams hung at worlds this year so do you really thing that teams are just not going to stack in the 20 point zone? That is just flawed logic.
@Ron I never said hanging wasn’t useful. Early season it was one of the most useful things to be able to do. I said/meant to say that not many teams had the ability to do it around November. Reconsidering it, getting the mobile goal alone into the 20 point zone will not be super difficult, its getting a mobile goal with 10 cones stacked on top that will be the challenge.
@structural bEaring Yes it will definitely be the challenge but how/why would you compare it to hanging? Getting it into the 20 point zone will be essential to winning the match by mid season, where hanging wasn’t really used that much at all this season.
Keep it calm everyone
I agree
Why not just put a single cone on a mobile goal and toss it into the 20 point zone
@Ron I really don’t think you read my points, I compared it with hanging not on its utility, but on the the ability of teams to be able to get a mobile goal w/ 10+ cones on it into the 20 point zone. I don’t think many teams will be able to consistently to this by the early season, much like many teams were not able to consistently hang early season, but by the end of the season, nearly every top team could hang and by the end of the season, nearly every team wil be able to get a mobile goal with stacked cones into the 20 point zone.
This.
I honestly think that the highest stack bonus isn’t worth the trouble.
Yeah I think its worth trying for the stationary, 5, and 10 point goals. As for the 20 point zone though, I think it would be much more efficient to just go for these other goals and stack as many as you possibly can.
@structural bEaring In what world would a team who has the ability to get a goal into the 20 point zone choose not to get it into the 20 point zone? Also nearly every top team is this season was not able to hang, it was more like around half and maybe a little less. A lot of teams this season had the ability to hang this season, but didn’t do it. It is way different this year, a team with the ability to get 20 + points is going to utilize that ability. This is completely unlike hanging.
@Ron yeah, still don’t think you understand what I mean. And you contradicted yourself in the last statement.
@structural bEaring You can’t make an accusing statement like that without evidence to back up your claim. I completely understand that you just haven’t thought out this game that well.
Respect,
Ron
@Ron I think you should practice your reading comprehension. My point is not even about game analysis. Its about a team’s ability to do something. Early season, many teams were not able to hang. Early season, a lot of teams will probably not be able to consistently get a mobile goal into the 20 point zone with a 10+ stack of cones. You said “Also nearly every top team is this season was not able to hang, it was more like around half and maybe a little less. A lot of teams this season had the ability to hang this season” so basically you just contradicted yourself. Enough evidence?