How would these two situations be scored?
[1] Corner tower, top blue ball doesn’t break the plane of the top ring, both bottom balls are partially within the ring, as seen
[2] Middle tower, top blue ball does break the plane of the top ring, both bottom balls are partially within the ring, as seen
All the towers are built to spec (to within a few mm)
We think this should be scored as 4 legal balls for [1] and 3 legal balls for [2], with the top ball not being counted. Is this correct?
all balls that meet the definition of scored are counted.
Scored - A Ball status. A Ball is considered Scored in a Goal if it is not touching a Robot of the same
color as the Ball and meets all of the following criteria.
• The Ball is fully or partially within the outer edge of the Goal.
• The Ball is fully below the upper edge of the Goal.
• The Ball is not contacting the foam tiles outside of the Goal
so yes, you can have more than 3 balls scored if you cram multiple balls into the bottom like you have done here. and no, balls that protrude above the top of the goal do not count as scored, and so do not count towards ownership.
Ah excellent, thanks for the lightning fast reply!
You’ll find the second example scored as “four balls” by many (most?) referees, too. Sort of “benefit of the doubt goes to the score” situation, combined with a desire to score a match quickly, without having to put a straightedge across the goal to check. Something “obviously” too high won’t be counted, of course.
For the corner goal you are required to have a standoff or a ziptie to prevent the ball from going into the corner
G19 states that:
As per the May 25th Game Manual Update, Option A: (1x) 4” Standoff (276-1021) or Option B: (2x) 11” Zipties (275-0125) are added to the four corner Goals to aid in proper function of the Goal. One of these options will be required for official match play, with option A being preferred.
So the ball at the back should not be able to go to the back and would not count because the field is set up incorrectly
It is true that there would be a ziptie or standoff in the way of the corner goal, so while that exact score should not be counted, we’ve still crammed 3-4 balls into the bottom before even with the backing and similar scores will be counted.
we had the same ???
While i am saying that the way that they currently have it is illegal. If you can fit 4 balls in there properly that count’s as scored
as long as its not past the top ring it counts
without touching the ground around the it
Just gonna drop this here Live Remote Competition: 4+ Ball Scoring It shows 4, 5, and 6 ball goals that legally count
I don’t think the corner goal in the picture in that post includes the standoff now required by the new G19 rule…
Hmm… I don’t think the corner goal in the picture in that post includes the standoff now required by the new G19 rule though
Hi. I can confirm that there was a standoff at the back of the goal as seen in the picture below.
Ahh, oops. Thanks for confirming!
It is possible to fit 6 balls in the corner goal, but only 5 with the standoff.