How is this a possible score? It is so early in the season (where I am competing) and people are already getting scores that surpass our team’s highest scores by almost 4 times, and we are using a fast dual catapult. If anyone knows what type of robot they are using, it would be great if you could let me know. My best guess is a 4 motor flywheel robot that can launch a ball super quickly from the rapid reload zone.
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Elementary school. I am also in Middle school but 908 is from the elementary school teams.
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There was a team that had an intake extend all the way into the rapid load zone with the bulk of the robot at the goal wall. It was a back roller.
Keep in mind that the first robot got disqualified because of improper loading:
and the second robot is pending disqualification
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I’m pretty sure they cheated. The score was momentarily removed I believe.
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They created an intake extension that reaches into the rapid load zone. It means they don’t have to drive into the zone anymore.
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I would give them the Judges award for “Thinking well outside the box” the Build award for such a clean and well designed robot build, and then DQ that run. It requires them to “roll the ball” into the intake, which isn’t allowed.
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Where do you get this information?
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I’m not sure what “not allowed” is, since it is rolling due to a robot action. What is not allowed is rolling the ball out of the starting area 2 by means of a human action.
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It is an alternative to YouTube called Xiaohongshu
Welcome to the forum.
So you DID understand. The DQ would be for rolling the ball into the intake using a human action.
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Do you think that this type of robots could be disqualified, because the extensions are within the allowed range. What is doubtful is the way of consuming the balls, on the other hand it seems very unfair compared to the effort made by other or most teams, what do you think?
The build will pass inspection. It fits into the size requirements.
The issue is how the robot is used. In the first video it’s in the loading zone on top of the splitter.
The second is the loader rolling balls into the intake. Both of these are not allowed.
Building a robot that cheats is unfair. It’s unfair to the roboteers that built it because a sharp eyed, knows the rules will DQ them. They have wasted hours on a dodgy process. Is that what you were asking?
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That’s right, because no matter how effective they seem, they don’t respect the rules, so students are forced to use that robot or do they ignore the rules altogether? That’s an interesting debate regarding robots on that side of the planet.
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If you would read the manual, it says you are allowed to roll the balls, as long as the robot is the one who takes the ball out of loading zone. In the video provided, it is unclear (which is why they could’ve been disqualified) whether or not it was them rolling the ball or the robot which brought the ball out of the loading zone 2, and because it has no benefit of the doubt if the ref cannot tell. On the other part of the first robot shown in the video, in Q&A 2052, the officials say that as long as a human is no longer in contact with the ball when the is loaded, even if it hasn’t left the loading station, a robot can now legally enter the loading zone. If anyone if confused about what I meant by these, please ask so I can try to clarify.
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Rolling the ball into the intake is allowed.
The Vex Game manual states that though it is not recommended, it is allowed. The reason why the second robot is pending DQ is because the intake is really close to not being in Starting Zone 2, the Refs could have though that it wasn’t in starting zone 2. If you recall, the game manual states that They "Wont be given the benefit of the doubt" So, likely, the Ref just saw the intake extension as not being in Starting zone 2.
It is clear from the way you explain the rule, clarification 2052 also helps a lot, what I have doubts about right now is why they mentioned above that they disqualified the robot, they presented a very promising design, I am speaking specifically about the first robot in the video.
Ah yes, so the reason the first robot was disqualified was that the ball has to touch the ground of the pickup zone before being able to be touched by a robot:
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908 is wild 
we can’t even score yet WHAT
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Which QnA was this?