A Message from the VEX Robotics Game Design Committee

To the VEX V5RC community:

We have seen your concern, heard your feedback, and would like to take the opportunity to explain the thought process and reasoning behind some of the changes to the robot construction rules for the 2025-2026 VEX V5 Robotics Competition season.

Most of the concern seems centered around the following topics:

  • R25 - Custom Plastics Allocation
  • 3D Printed Decorations
  • License Plates

Custom Plastics

Over the last three seasons, we’ve noticed a shift in how teams interpret the previous rule for custom plastics. Teams began to push the limits of the rule, constructing incredible mechanisms and robots with innovative uses of non-shattering plastic.

This trend was most noticeable at the highest levels of competition throughout this past season. Teams used hundreds of custom plastic parts on their robots. This revolution created a ‘skill gap’ that we believe is not within the ethos of the VEX V5 Robotics Competition, and we became concerned that it may have gone too far.

The VEX V5 Robotics Competition (V5RC), at its core, is a closed-system robotics competition intended to provide teams with a relatively level playing field. For the most part, every team competing in V5RC has equal access to all of the same parts. It is the GDC’s opinion that custom plastic, to the extent that it was used in the 2024-2025 season, was antithetical to the closed-system architecture that V5RC relies upon. We identified this as a necessary update to bring the competition back within its intended bounds.

We also received feedback from Referees and Event Partners throughout the year expressing concerns that the extensive use of custom plastic parts made inspection virtually impossible at some events. Event Staff were having trouble identifying parts as functional or non-functional, and could not identify a way to accurately verify that all custom plastic parts on a robot were nestable within a 12” x 24” sheet of plastic. It was reported that in the interest of time, in some regions, this rule was all but ignored during inspection.

In other words, the previous custom plastics allocation rule was unenforceable.

While we did set clearer limits this year—twelve plastic pieces up to 4” x 8” each—it’s worth pointing out that this actually allows more total material than before. In the 2024–2025 season (High Stakes), teams were limited to a single sheet of plastic up to 12” x 24”—that’s 288 square inches.

With the new R25, teams now have 384 square inches of plastic to work with. That’s over 30% more total area than before. So while the size of each piece may be smaller than some previously legal parts, the total allowance is actually larger. We feel this is an appropriate compromise.

3D Printed Decorations

Similar to the confusion with plastics, Event Staff around the globe have had an increasingly difficult time determining whether or not 3D printed parts are truly non-functional to a robot.

In hindsight, the use of the term ‘non-functional’ was not fair to our Volunteers. We were asking them to determine if a part of a robot they have never seen before serves a game-affecting function on the robot without even watching a match. This unfortunately led to varied interpretations, with some legal parts being removed (at the time), and some illegal parts being allowed to pass (at the time).

It was determined that the cleanest solution to this issue was to not allow any 3D printed parts on robots, no matter their function (or lack thereof). This should make it much easier to determine legality of parts on robots, allow for more efficient inspection, and create a healthier competitive environment that better fits the closed system that VEX intends to be.

We encourage teams to find other ways to use 3D printers to serve their needs. Adding paddles to controllers, creating custom toolbox inserts and other organizational tools, and making autonomous alignment jigs are all good examples of useful 3D printing in VEX.

License Plates

We updated the license plate rules for 2025-2026 to help observers, Referees, Emcees, Inspectors, and Teams.

License plates help observers identify what team and alliance a robot belongs to. Referees rely on license plate colors and legibility to make rules calls (like holding). Emcees depend on license plates for accurate in-match commentary. When a license plate falls off during a match, team and alliance information becomes lost and everyone’s experience suffers as a result. Limiting each robot to a single color of license plate and encouraging stronger mounting methods will help ensure that the correct plates remain visible throughout the match. Given the importance of license plates in these situations, we felt it was appropriate to reconsider their status as ‘non-functional’, as well.

Until now, license plates have been considered non-functional decorations, but this status hasn’t been consistently enforced. Classifying them as functional components eliminates the need for judgment calls about functionality (e.g., did contacting the High Stakes ladder with a license plate meet that AWP criterion?), and makes them just another part of the robot.

Conclusion

With all of this in mind, we hope you better understand why these changes were made, and why we do not plan to repeal any of these updates. The GDC does not intend to hinder innovation, stifle engineering possibilities, or prevent teams from doing cool things. In fact, we feel that many of these changes encourage good engineering practices, and we look forward to seeing how teams innovate around the new constraints.

If you still disagree, there is a common thought experiment that may be an apt metaphor:

“Sometimes you have to move backwards before you can move forwards.” - Anonymous

The GDC is committed to paying close attention to how these updates play out over the 2025-2026 season. If teams demonstrate a willingness and/or capability to follow these rules as written, the GDC is open to exploring ways to slowly open some of these restrictions in future seasons.

We always appreciate feedback in any form, and this situation is no different. Please do not hesitate to reach out to us at [email protected] with any more concerns about this topic or others. We have already received a great deal of feedback from the initial manual release, and our team is working hard on the first manual update already. And yes, we are going to fix the expansion rule, don’t worry.

We appreciate the passion you have displayed over the past few days. It is our hope that you are able to channel that passion into new, creative ideas that will work under these new rules. Thank you, and good luck to all teams in Push Back.

Sincerely,

The VEX Robotics Game Design Committee

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This cleared a lot up, like the reasoning and intent for some of the new rule changes.

:smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Glad to hear it!

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Just for clarification, r25 does not affect VEXU and we will still be allowed for unlimited plastic under the same rules as last year. Same thing with 3d print?

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I think the reason that a lot of people dislike this rule, is the fact that despite the increased area, there is a lot more restriction because we cannot make parts that are long and thin or have lots of tiny parts. I have heard suggestions such as making each part have to fit in a 32^2 inch rectangle or allowing more parts under a smaller size in addition so teams can continue to make gussets and linear slides from plastic.

A lot of community thoughts are held here if you would like to read:

Once again, thank you GDC for your hard work making a great game!

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Will issues with Push Back goal clearing and the match loading tube being effectively useless be fixed? This game seems fun but if descoring is really that easy I fear it will just be a bore.

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I still think custom plates shouls be allowed. I do understand why you have issue, but if they are kept in place securely, they should be legal. Do a shake test or smthg. Or, better yet, make teams use the stock CAD model. Then they just put the custom numbers on there and nothing else

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I just wanted to say thank you guys for giving us reasons. While I personally don’t agree with reasons of skill gaps and reffing because of what I’ve seen it’s besides the point. Glad to see reasons.

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I think it would be appreciated if the gdc could comment on some concerns raised by people like Luke about how the game elements just fall out the area can be completely de-scored with 1 hit from a robot etc…

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Thank you GDC for confirming my assumptions about the rationale of the changes. I would also like to point out an example of a change in the rules that makes EP/Head Referee/Inspectors lives a lot easier - in the past, the Robot Brain power button had to be safely accessible to power off the robot. Now the rules allow for safe access to power button OR ability to unplug battery to accomplish same result. This was cause for a lot of uncomfortable situations during High Stakes between our volunteers and teams (and adult coaches) usually requiring the team to modify their robots at our events, and other events ignoring the rule altogether. I anticipate that this modest change to the powering off rule will lessen pressure during inspection this coming season.

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Cool, I suggested someone ask nicely, and here it is, a well thought out, well reasoned, well explained and nuanced coverage of the rule.

Thanks @VEX_GDC

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As an avid supporter of Magplates and custom 3D Printed plates, I just wanted to share my opinion and thoughts about R6. I am aware that this rule is very unlikely to change (other than the part stating that plates cannot be on a moving section of the robot being reworded), however I would still like to argue for 3D printed plates to stay.
One of the main reasons listed for changing the plate rule is making sure the plates are properly attach. I believe that plates falling off is unlikely to change even with the addition of this rule. It seems that plates can still be attached by rubber bands, zip ties, and loose screws. It seems inevitable that teams will find an easy method for attaching plates that still has them falling off. I believe the approach to this rule should’ve been different, and that plates falling off should instead be considered a minor violation. Although this would involve more work for head refs, it would make inspection easier since volunteers don’t need to check if plates are properly attached. In addition, this change would make the issue of plates falling off be taken more seriously. I have seen possible hundreds of teams have their plates fall off, and I feel that it should be treated as a violation and something for teams to learn from and fix so it doesn’t happen again in the future.
The second part of your point is that it is difficult for volunteers to see whether or not 3D printed plates are functional or not. Although this is an issue with 3D printed plates, I believe that the benefits outweigh the flaws. Throughout last season, my team used Magplates and encountered no issues with volunteers questioning whether or not they were functional (even though at some competitions, especially worlds, it could’ve been argued so). In addition, I didn’t hear any talks throughout the season from volunteers and other teams about them having issues on whether or not plates were functional.
Finally, I would like to conclude with what I believe are some of the advantages of custom plates. The primary advantage of custom plates was that it allows teams to better express themselves. By having custom plates, they could make their robot more unique and also more recognizable. In most cases I feel that Magplates are actually more recognizable than the metal plate alternative that was listed in the game manual.
Thank you to anyone who read this lengthy post, and I would appreciate any feedback.

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Thanks GDC for the explanations!

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how do i dislike a post? Thanks!

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I’m guessing they’ll just implement a rule change, or possibly add a part to the field that prevents teams from doing this (maybe something ruling that “deliberate ramming” as an attempt to descore isn’t allowed, and teams with a piece on their robot that’s the correct height to do this should be cautious when driving). Either way I think it’s probably an easy fix.

I, and many others, genuinely do appreciate this feedback, but also-
I, and many others, think that the “no 3D printed plates” thing is a bit overkill. Why not just tighten rules about keeping them stable? Why not just keep them non-functional? Never once did I or anyone I have asked encountered any of the issues that you put as examples, and I feel like they could be easily remedied by just saying “if a part of your bot that is NOT the license plate is touching, it is touching.”
Additionally, I, and many others, do not like the “we do not intend to change this.” I mean, it is reasonable, but after opening yourselves up to make this post, it feels like closing yourself off again, I see it means that we should stop arguing, which is true, but

  • You sort of contradicted yourself right after
  • It just doesn’t feel right.
    I, and many others, understand these changes, but realize - if THOUSANDS of students and mentors are unhappy about this, maybe ask a few more of THEM…

Thank you, though.

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what is “skill gap”? isn’t this inherent

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What about the brain screen protector because that is a piece of non-shattering plastic?

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You cannot. If you disagree with an opinion or statement on the forum, you can respond to them with your opinion. Just remember to be respectful even if you disagree.

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Totally agree! For one, we always try to prioritize plates not falling off in our first iteration, so you will see 6 magnets. As a tip for new teams and teams in general, we have told our customers that you should usually keep your plates inside of the robot, away from any physical interactions. That way you don’t risk damaging your plates. For us personally, we have not had any problems with the magplates files I publicly released. I think that if plates do fall off, it is to the teams placement of the plates. Also a small tip we gave out to a lot of teams, and one that has saved many of these instances, is rubber banding the plates to the holders. This is great for some magplate designs that do not have as much magnetic pull as the others, and it has worked great for us. To me, I think there are many other solutions than simply banning them, I would ask the GDC to highly reconsider the current solution, and that we are open to help fix the problem on behalf of the magplates team!

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As I noted in another post, License Plates were used for functional reasons during High Stakes - closing this loop is important. Second, robot identification - is that red 1234 or red 5678 - wait there is a blue plate face down on field ugh - … wait three red plates on robots … what is that one with smiley face #win at all cost , As an EP and Referee - don’t make it difficult - team identification is important on field when game play gets heated.

Happy they are functional part of robot and have requirements. There are so many ways to be expressive - just not in mission critical decisions - eg who gets warning, or DQ, who gets AWP, … These are real decisions Head Referees have to make and have made.

I appreciate GDC for explanation of these sets of concerns.

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