Answered: DQ and Hang Points

[TKM.368]

In this post:
https://vexforum.com/t/answered-clarification-on-the-interaction-of-hanging-and-sg9/24384/1

poster mentioned:

Rule <SG9> states that if a team is in violation of rule <SG9>, they will be Disqualified and their hang will not count.

Response did not discuss the “hang will not count” portion. Is that interpretation correct? I cannot find anything in <SG9> about hanging not counting.

<SG9> Robots may not intentionally grasp, grapple or attach to any Field Elements with the exception of
the Bar. Strategies with mechanisms that react against multiple sides of a field element in an effort to
latch onto said field element are prohibited. (See figures 14-16) The intent of this rule is to prevent teams
from both unintentionally damaging the field, and from anchoring themselves to the field. Special attention
will be paid to any teams interacting with the Hanging Structure. Violations of this rule will result in a
Disqualification.

My understanding is that when a DQ is administered, you do not go back and unscore anything that team may have scored, which presumably also includes a hang. Wouldn’t the non-offending alliance partner in a qualification match still benefit from the hang points so long as all elements of hanging are satisfied by their <SG9> offending alliance partner?

Hanging – A Robot is considered to be Hanging if it is Low Hanging or High Hanging

Low Hanging – A Robot is considered to be Low Hanging if it is touching the Hanging Bar of its own color
and not touching any foam field tile or the Bump.

High Hanging – A Robot is considered to be High Hanging if it is touching the Hanging Bar of its own
color and completely above the plane parallel to the foam field tiles, formed by the top of the field
perimeter. Note: A High Hanging Robot does not also count as a Low Hanging Robot.

[Karthik]

Response did not discuss the “hang will not count” portion. Is that interpretation correct? I cannot find anything in <SG9> about hanging not counting.

My understanding is that when a DQ is administered, you do not go back and unscore anything that team may have scored, which presumably also includes a hang. Wouldn’t the non-offending alliance partner in a qualification match still benefit from the hang points so long as all elements of hanging are satisfied by their <SG9> offending alliance partner?

There is nothing in the rules about not counting the Hang. The offending team would be disqualified, however, if the Hang would still count.