Answered: Expanding beyond climbing zone - clarification (again)

[t.schmitt]

Karthik,

I asked the question last week if a lift could be negated if a lifting robot expanded outside the climbing zone when deploying their lifting mechanism, to which you responded that there wasn’t a rule that allowed a ref to negate a lift:

@t.schmitt With that in mind, my second question is: if a robot expands outside of the climbing zone momentarily while deploying it’s lifting mechanism and then re-positions itself to fit in the square and later lifts an opponent, can we negate that lift during scoring?

No, there is no rule that allows you to negate a lift. The rules must be enforced as written.

As I was going through the rules, again, I noticed the following at the end of <SG10> (bolded/italicized for emphasis):

<SG10> Robots may expand beyond their normal maximum perimeter of 18” by 18” only while completely within the volume of the Climbing Zone. Robots may expand above the 18” height limit while completely within the volume of the Climbing Zone and with less than thirty seconds (0:30) left in the Match. Minor violations of this rule that do not affect the match will result in a warning. Egregious (match affecting) offenses will result in a Disqualification. Teams that receive multiple warnings may also receive a Disqualification at the head referee’s discretion. Any Alliance with a Robot that has expanded illegally will not be eligible for Elevation points.

If I’m reading that right, a robot (and their alliance partner) that has expanded outside of 18" x 18", while not completely within the climbing zone, would not be eligible for the points awarded for climbing (elevation points).

I apologize for missing that the first time and having to ask again…I want to make sure the rule is clear for our state tournament this weekend.

Thanks, in advance!

[Karthik]

@t.schmitt

If I’m reading that right, a robot (and their alliance partner) that has expanded outside of 18" x 18", while not completely within the climbing zone, would not be eligible for the points awarded for climbing (elevation points).

I apologize for missing that the first time and having to ask again…I want to make sure the rule is clear for our state tournament this weekend.

I should be the one apologizing, as I misspoke in my original response. Your interpretation of <SG10> is correct. Thanks for pointing this out.