Answered: <SG9> Clauses with Fully Built Skyrise

[LegoMindstormsmaniac]

Hi Karthik,

<SG9> quoted for convenience:

@VEX Skyrise Manual

<SG9> Robots may not interfere with an opposing Alliance’s Building of Skyrise Sections in any way. The following actions are all illegal.
a) Contacting an opponent’s Autoloader and/or contents. (See Figure 22)
b) Contacting an opponent’s Skyrise Base and/or Skyrise. (See Figure 23)
c) Contacting an opponent’s Alliance Starting Tile or the grey foam field tile between the two Alliance Starting Tiles and located in the corner of the field. (See Figures 24-25)
d) Contacting an opponent’s Robot that is contacting the foam field tiles mentioned in c) and not contacting any other foam field tiles. (See Figure 26)
e) Contacting any Scoring Objects that are contacting the foam field tiles mentioned in c) and not contacting any other foam field tiles.
f) Depositing Scoring Objects in/on the opponent’s foam field tiles mentioned in c) or on Robots or Scoring Objects touching said tiles.
Please note that both direct contact (e.g. Robot making contact) and indirect contact (e.g. Robot contacting a Scoring Object that makes contact) are considered violations of the above listed clauses.

In this thread you were asked:

@jacko

…] would the list of actions in A-F still be deemed as illegal once a Skyrise is fully built to the 7 sections, as any contact would not be inhibiting an alliances ability to build the Skyrise?

To which you replied:

@Karthik

This is highly dependent on the type of action taking place. For example, pushing a Robot into their own fully Built Skyrise in an effort to negate it, would still be considered a violation of <SG9>. Contacting an empty Autoloader that will never be refilled because there are no more Skyrise Sections available would not be considers a violation.

You were then asked to clarify about defensive play once the skyrise was fully built, and you stated:

@Karthik

Defensive play around the Skyrise Area is legal, until you violate one of the specific clauses listed in <SG9>. Of course if the violation is minor, only a warning would be issued.

My question is, which of the clauses under <SG9> are ignored once the skyrise is fully built? Your first response seemed to indicate that every clause (or at least most of them?) would be ignored, but doing anything that would cause any amount of the skyrise to be negated would be illegal. However, your clarification about defensive play seems to contradict the first, saying that you can play defense until you violate any of the clauses under <SG9> (which would include your example of being allowed to touch the empty skyrise loader).

For example, if the blue skyrise is fully built, would a red robot have to ensure it did not touch any of blue’s protected tiles, or a blue robot touching blue’s protected tiles and no other tiles, or any of blue’s skyrise sections, or their base, or the bottom cube on the skyrise if it happens to be touching a protected tile and no other tiles, while the red robot descores cubes from the blue skyrise? (Or it may also have to make sure that the cubes it touches never come in contact with the skyrise itself, as that would be indirect touching and in violation of the very last sentence of <SG9>.)

Or could the red robot freely descore any blue cubes from the fully built blue skyrise, given that it does not negate any points scored by the blue skyrise sections?

Additionally, could a red robot place red cubes on a fully built blue skyrise? And which <SG9> clauses would it have to obey?

Finally, could a red robot score red skyrise sections on a fully built blue skyrise? And again, which <SG9> clauses would it have to obey?

Thank you for your time,

~Jordan

[Karthik]

@LegoMindstormsmaniac

My question is, which of the clauses under <SG9> are ignored once the skyrise is fully built?

None of them. However, some of the clauses become impossible to be Match affecting once the Skyrise is fully built, such as <SG9a>.

@LegoMindstormsmaniac

Or could the red robot freely descore any blue cubes from the fully built blue skyrise, given that it does not negate any points scored by the blue skyrise sections?

This is not legal.

@LegoMindstormsmaniac

Additionally, could a red robot place red cubes on a fully built blue skyrise?

This is not legal.

@LegoMindstormsmaniac

Finally, could a red robot score red skyrise sections on a fully built blue skyrise?

1. Skyrise Sections are yellow.
2. Robots are never permitted to Build Skyrise Sections on their opponent’s Skyrise.