So, I’ve read the rules, and I kmow that in auton, even of you successfully high park without going over the line, you, no matter what, can’t get points for a high park in auton. My team members think otherwise. Which is it?
P.S. I am aware of the correct answer (the first one), I just want to prove it to my teammates.
well if it’s in the manual just show that to them and it should be fine keyword should
Additionally, violations of the above rule SG3 “will result in the Autonomous Bonus being awarded to the opposing Alliance.” So, if you successfully high park (“become center parked”) it is more than you don’t get center parking points - you lose the Autonomous Bonus (regardless of whether or not you are over the line).
So if you don’t center park but you get 2 wheels on the center platform you don’t lose autonomus nesisarily? Because we have lost autonomous a few times to interacting but not fully parking on the center platform during autonomous.
In response to James: Yes, technically as long as you don’t touch the tiles and aren’t center parked, you still get the bonus (if you won). Even if two of your wheels are (technically) over the line, and two are touching the alliance platform, you’re not center parked therefore legal. Sorry about those bad calls.
they weren’t bad calls they were just team arguments
What do you mean by team arguments?
No, @James6555 said
we have lost autonomous a few times to interacting but not fully parking on the center platform during autonomous.
Sorry for not making it clear, but that post was in response to James. I forgot to click the correct reply.
In response to a few responses:
In addition to the team arguments, at tourneys that we have hosted I have been working field resets, and I’ve seen robots be center parked at the end of auton, not be awarded points for it, but the alliance still gets the auton bonus*.
*Because of other reasons, like caps and flags
Yeah, there’s some grey areas about this. To my knowledge, there hasn’t been clarification about what constitutes “becoming center parked” in autonomous. Would it be considered utilizing the center platform in order to gain points? Or just being on the center platform? I had a conversation about this earlier in the year and I doubt I’d be able to find it again.
I agree with the interpretation presented here, where you don’t receive points for being (completely) on the center platform, but also don’t automatically lose auton because of it.
Or maybe I just missed a ruling somewhere or skimmed the manual incorrectly.
And, on a totally unrelated note (sorry, but I don’t feel like this simple question would be worth making a new thread), would it be considered interfering with your opponent if you reach over the auton line, not touching tiles, and pull that cap that has a ball under it to your color, thusly leaving them (possibly) without a second bal to shoot and/or without a cap in its usual place?
My interpretation is that this would be okay, because it does not directly interfere with their robot. Only with their scoring potential. Their robot would run the rest of its auton just fine.
If this isn’t a simple answer that might require discussion, I’ll gladly make a new thread to avoid further derailing this one.
To simplifiy things out a little bit:
Figuring Out Rulings:
Actions:
I. Did the robot in violation intentionally or egregiously push the opponents while crossing or center parking? Y/N
a. Yes - The team(or alliance if eliminations) with the robot in violation should be disqualified from the match, even if not match affecting
b. No - The team with the robot in violation should be warned if they made contact with opponents, but if the robot in violation didn’t make contact the alliance would only lose autonomous.
the rules state that a robot cannot cross the autonomous line or become center parked even if it does not cross the line. it can be partially on the center platform as long as part of the robot is touching the alliance platform and not crossed the center line.
