Autonomous win point question

I’m totally new to V5 this year after having coached IQ for 2 years. V5 is quite the learning curve for me. In the first couple revisions of the game manual, it stated that the robots could not break the plane of the autonomous line, which is the double tape line down the center of the field. The current game manual has changed this and now states that the robot cannot break the plane of the starting line. What is considered legal starting placement for the robot with this change? Does the legal starting placement change? Is it just that at the end of the autonomous period the robot cannot be touching the start line? If this would be better for me to ask in the official Q&A on robotevents, I can do that, too. Thank you.

I don’t see where your saying you cannot break the plane of the starting line however sg1 states very clearly what is a legal position. Here is a photo of it

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All of the things you’ve said are true, but come from different rules and apply in different contexts.

  1. At the beginning of a match, each robot has to start in a position that breaks the plane of their alliance’s starting line.
  2. During the 15-second autonomous period, robots can’t contact the field on the opponent’s side of the auton line, and can’t contact scoring objects that start the match entirely on the other side of the auton line.
  3. To earn an Autonomous Win Point at the end of the auton period, the alliance has to meet all of the AWP criteria, which includes both robots moving away from the starting line so they’re not breaking the plane.

I hope this helps!

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Thank you for helping to clarify. I was feeling like legal starting position and updated AWP criteria were conflicting with each other, which is why I posted. Here is what it says in the AWP section.
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Yes, that helps very much. Thank you.

Yes, both robots must start breaking the plane of the Starting Line, and to achieve the AWP, both robots must end up off the Starting Line.
So, it’s an additional challenge for the AWP (both robots need to run an auton that moves them forward).

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