Hello, I am building my robot and want to know how many points to try and get our robot to score, what are everyone’s early mid and late season predictions for how many points the average robot would score/ match.
I believe the highest combined score possible is 680 so 340 (half of that) would be an excellent goal because it guarantees victory.
For the USA (minus Hawaii) this time of year, I’d say getting 30-40 points on your own would be a respectable goal. For example, you can see the World rankings for Robot Skills here:
http://www.robotevents.com/robot-competitions/vex-robotics-competition/robot-skills
Of course, as the year goes on, those scores will climb, too.
Yea adding the match loads and what you score by driving I would say around 50s - 90s:D
http://vex.us.nallen.me/extras/high_scores
The best a single alliance has done is a 256 (from California, interestingly, the rest of the top 10 are all from Hawaii). Which I guess we can roughly assume to be 128 per robot.
I might add to the page actual calculations for the mean and the median at some point, but for now we can say that the median will be somewhere around this page. The median score across the whole season seems to be around 35, so assume 18 per robot.
Taking the first few events on that High Scores page, we can see two events for Hawaii (mid August and mid September) with mean scores of 84 and 76, and an event from California last week with a mean score of 58. So read into that what you will, I guess we can say that the “average” robot at the moment seems to be scoring 29-42 points per match.
So yeah, pretty much exactly what FullMetalMentor said 
(I just have data to back it up!)
In other news, it really looks like Hawaii is currently the region to beat!
Although our events aren’t on RobotEvents, here in NZ (all the results are available here) we’ve had a high score of 311 with an average of 63 for our latest event, but I’m ignoring that. 
Today we ran a small scrimmage within our club with 6 teams and had a high score of 193 with an average score of 87 for all of our 6 teams. We have a competition this Saturday and set up this competition for practice so I would expect to see matches with scores generally close to the 100s for qualification matches in Georgia at this time of year.
Pre lambert scrimmage match results.pdf (240 KB)
I’d say for a start as we will start to move into the mid season soon, if you can score roughly 100 points independently, you should be able to win most matches would be my prediction. I feel like that bench-mark will last till about February but i obviously cant say for sure.
I would tend to agree, I think you should be good off ( at least mid season ) if you can score around 100 points independent of another robot. I think if you can build a mechanism with 90-100% accuracy and a simple high lift mechanism (around 150 points ) and have a similar alliance partner you could probably do pretty well this year.
I feel like you’re one of the top robots in the world if you can score 100 (or 150) points by yourself in a match consistently, considering the guaranteed win score is 340 (315 if only one alliance high elevates, 290 if neither does) and we’re still early in the season. There’s only been 11 matches where the alliance score has exceeded 200 (100 per robot).
The title of the thread (and the OP’s question) was about the average team, not the top teams. Later on in the season I could see the per-robot average getting to 100, especially with high elevations. But right now it’s definitely not there (even in the top performing regions). The top teams are only just breaking through this point, and there’s only a handful that have reached the “200 club” like I said earlier.
As early in the season as it is, I am expecting most teams to be scoring around 40-70 per team at the first competition we are attending this weekend. I’m sure we will see many robots struggling with their launchers and possibly their lifts.
As for 3921B, we have only practiced one time and we scored 71 points alone (note: We were not using a full field set up as our field is lifted and is not level resulting in 3 stacks that will not position correctly.) We plan on practicing for roughly 5+ hours tomorrow and I will post the average here if I can remember to keep up with the scoring. We’re hoping to bump up our scoring to 110 so we can perform with excellence this weekend.
By late November we plan on having an average of roughly 160+ per match. By the time state comes around we plan on pitching off 24 driver loads in 25-30 seconds (120 points) and then cleaning the field with our alliance by the time the match is over.
At world I expect things to be crazy and for fields to be cleaned of all balls resulting in teams hitting 300+ points, so it’s hard to really estimate an average by the late season, but I would say scoring 150 would position your team as one of the best.
Edit: We averaged 92 points a match today, with a match of 115 alone being our highest during the hour we actually got to practice.
Lets try to keep posting the averages as the season advances… It will be good for teams trying to figure out how their robot compares with others and very interesting how the average will increase
All the average scores for events are available on VexDB (e.g. http://vex.us.nallen.me/events/view/RE-VRC-15-3327, look at the right panel).
I might make a graph to plot average score vs date for each event for each season and stick it under the Extras section. Probably quite useful.
I feel that the base shooter will get to score more points than an outfielder, since base shooting is pretty much protected and an outfielder has to do scoring and play defence at the same time.
So I would have to say that it depends on what role you play in the field. An outfielder who scores 150+ points will be quite impressive while a base shooter who scores the same 150+ points might be expected to perform better.
A base shooter might shoot better individually but if you have 2 robots that are solely designed for Long range shots on the same team it will be difficult to win because of the limited driver loads. By the same notion, you shouldn’t have 2 outfielders on a team because you will miss out on all the extra points a base can get. The versatility to do either is key.
Okay I’ve made a graph of the mean alliance score against date for each season!
This is amazing but appears to have a slightly negative line of best fit… Any ideas why? Where are you getting all of this data?
Yes there is a slightly negative trend. I guess the few events at the very early season are filled with very eager teams which also correspond to good teams? Then as the season goes on more teams become involved and so the average decreases.
It’s a very tiny negative trend though, basically negligible. I expect it will begin to trend upwards soon, take a look at past seasons.
All of the data is available on VexDB, and anyone’s free to access any of the data for their own apps through the API. The data is straight from RobotEvents, so if there isn’t any data on RobotEvents it won’t be on VexDB either.
Average score on our robot (revealed today) on its own is at least 185, it can top 200 for sure.
So you attended an event the weekend just gone right? Here’s your alliance scores:
Qual #4: 153
Qual #7: 159
Qual #8: 94
Qual #15: 136
Qual #17: 163
Qual #21: 188
Qual #25: 119
SF #1-1: 239
SF #1-2: 114
Final #1: 164
Final #2: 128
So, your average alliance score was 151 (rounded up), meaning your robot’s average was ~75 points (assuming half, like we have been in this thread)… Even if we assumed you scored all of your alliance’s points (151), that’s still quite a lot short of the 185-200 that you just claimed. A barrier which you broke only 2 times out of 11…
Now to be fair, dividing by two isn’t exactly correct, so let’s take a look at the other metrics like CCWM and OPR. Your CCWM was 96.85 for this event, meaning you contributed a net gain of 96.85 points to your alliance in each match, very respectable but only half of what you claim. OPR of 115.69 is probably the most relevant metric for what we’re talking about here, still 70 points away from the low end of what you claim.
I’m not trying to say you’re a bad team or anything like that, your stats are definitely respectable and #4 and #3 for Robot and Programming skills respectively is pretty impressive. I just like using real numbers and statistics to quantify a team’s performance, rather than the “I scored this once while practicing” method that seems to happen.
People should start backing their claims up with actual data, it’s all readily available through multiple websites (VexDB, RE, DVHS Scouting) and apps (Vex Scout, Vex Via). 
As a few more events from the weekend have added results, the trend is definitely positive now.