I couldn’t find an answer to this in the game manual, and since I am not a Coach/financial contact of a team, I can’t ask a question on the Q and A. Can someone please ask this question for me on the Q and A? Thanks!
No, all motors must be off before the match starts.
What @Rishabh_Jain24 is true but you should also note that this will be enforced by the field controller setting all of your motors to coast prior to the start of the match.
No need for Q & A. Game Manual, Rule SG1 - “4. Have no motors or other mechanisms in motion or “running” until the Match begins.”
I can agree with @Willy long because it is enforce in SG2.
If that would be allowed you could say “Oh, so I can start my drive train motors before the timer, right?”. It defeats the point of the timer entirely.
This sounds like a case of where the question that was asked was not what was meant.
You can have the program/code running BEFORE the match begins, in fact you NEED to do so.
Just because the code is running does not mean motors will be actually moving.
Once the match begins and the controller is used, the motors turn on, mechanisms move, robot moves, etc.
There is no field controller in IQ.
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Not IQ but this does raise the question:: Is a a motor set to Hold or Brake considered to be “Running”? My search did not reveal any clarification. Anyone?
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I think this is a good situation. The intent of <SG1.4> is definitely around having things “in motion”, which Hold and Brake modes are not, even if that means that the motor isn’t completely de-energized.
I see the point you are trying to make, but the manual is pretty clear when it says “Have no motors or other mechanisms in motion or “running” until the Match begins” (SG1 point 4).
Welllll, yes and no.
SG1, point 4 is, indeed, pretty clear up until it says “or running.” Reading closely, one might iconclude that the author of Point 4 was not satisfied with just “Have no motors or other mechanisms in motion” and felt a further need to add " or running." In other words, the author may believe that “running” describes something other than and in addition to “motion.” Perhaps the meaning extends to a state of the motor that, while not in motion, is still in violation of SG1. I certainly respect Kenny’s comment and don’t totally disagree other than, IMO, the intent is perhaps not necessarily limited to “definitely around things in motion.” Indeed, according to T1mH, there appears to be a different interpretation with respect to other VEX competitions.
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Interesting, I guess I haven’t thought that deep. I would assume though, that the intent of the rule is not to force teams to coast their motors, but to force robots to be still prior to the match. You bring up a good point but head refs at worlds have never enforced this so my assumption would be that the accepted meaning of the rule is correct.
Ok. While not totally comfortable with having to interpret and assume meanings, I don’t want to be pedantic. It is interesting that SG1 for Over Under states:
g. Completely stationary (i.e., no motors or other mechanisms are in motion).
Quite clear and requires no assumptions or interpretation.
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