We were discussing the best ways to isolate the opponents from their scoring objects, and we realized perhaps the most effective way would be to put your opponent inside the ladder somehow.
Probably unfeasible and certainly not in the spirit of VEX, this occurred to me and thought itād be good for some humor if it were pulled off. Ladder = prison.
On the other hand, what someone (Hecko?) mentioned in another thread, putting game objects in the center of the ladder or just hoarding all of the rings seems fairly feasible.
LOOL
thats what WE thought like 10 mins after we left the convention center!
but we checked the rules the next day and āpicking upā breaks the entanglement rule
that would have been epic though
and there is still the āputting the shot puts ON the opponentā option available
My team member proposed earlier today that we make a high-velocity tube pitcher like 10Dās ball pitcher this year except with the new 2-wire motors and attack the opposing drivers with it. We effectively struck down that design in a unanimous vote.
Tubes in the middle of the ladder is probably going to be pretty important I think. My current plan for college challenge has one robot designed specifically for that and the high hang, assuming few rules changes.
Irrelevant: Were you at Dallas this year? I recognize your name from CD.
If you were to dump into the ladder, then the tubes would still be reachable by clawbots etc. Perhaps just have a giant bucket with a lid or one way gate so tubes can enter and not come out? Seeing as how theyāre pretty light, it seems feasible to be hanging with a good 10 tubes in your robot (time to get creative with your motors ;))
i doubt the other bots would be dumb enough to not see you comming going at 0.5:1 gear ratio
and if you drag the ladder, i think that you will scrape the foam therefore damaging the field/playing surface
ā¦OR you could play the game & win knowing that you truly beat the team and not my imprisoning them.
I would say the easiest way to disable a team, which is the true intent of any one of these maneuvers, would be to tip them over. Create a slope on the front of the robot. The bottom of most robots arenāt more than a 1/4" high. Just drive up, and watch em tip.
but that would be illegal ātippingā
were thinking of ālegal miraclesā
would be funny if a team actually DOES this at worlds
like that of team 76
Nope, I was just at the FIRST Championship and with no team tied to my name competing at VRC, it was hard to justify the trip from New York to Dallas. Next year, the team I mentor (FRC 2791) will be entering VRC and hopefully one of them will qualify.
I think teams should focus on the out of the box strategies, but consider the difficulty of the task, amount of specialization needed, and the reward for doing so. At least you wonāt be a copy.
I think weāre all underestimating the size of the tubes ā storing 10 tubes would be quite a task, even for a decent sized basket. You would need the equivalent of a ā307.2 sq. in. cylinder to be able to store 10 tubes on top of each otherā¦ and thatās probably the most efficient way to store them ā if you were storing them side by side, you would need a width of 14 in. for your basket. I think it will turn out that most team will not be able to hold as many rings as we think right nowā¦
I was thinking to one of my teamās earlier prototypes for Clean Sweep (I also saw a rendering of it on http://team254.com/ in the slideshow banner): using slide rails to increase the capacity of the bucket. You can use vex mesh for the sides and have it in a folded dimension to begin with (zip tie multiple sheets together or something). You donāt have to dump, though you should probably try to hangā¦
One of the members of my team suggested that we should have a non-rigid bucket that would simply be an unfinished triangular prism that would start folded up and unfold when the robot starts moving. No motors, no responsibility for the drivers, at least as far as the bucket goes.
I really donāt see the point in designing a robot solely around hoarding the other teamās rings. It would be far more prudent to design a mechanism that not only scored for you, but could also descore the things that the other team scored (Elevationās parallel treads come to mind?).
Agreed, You could make Paralell treads + a open and close basket to put the other teams tubes into. I hope this year there will be more Tank track driven robots be so much cooler to watch xD.
