We just signed up our two teams again this year at the much increased price. Today, I received the welcome package and there was only one engineering notebook. I am wondering if this was a mistake or if, along with the huge price increase, REC has decided to give us even less than we have received in the past.
What have other teams received when registering two or more teams this year?
But the RECF is making some changes. Jason Morella is strangely absent from the page of staff at the RECF, and tournament fees are up too. Hopefully they can get it sorted out in the next few months or so before April.
The fees REC charges EPs went way up. They used to charge 3% of the money they collected. They now charge $5.00 per team at your event even if you waived the fee for the team or they paid you directly or even if it is your own teams.
If you had an event with 40 teams and you waive 10 of them for bringing fields and volunteers, or they are your own teams (not unrealistic) and you were charging $65 and 5 of the teams paid you directly, REC would collect $48.75 last year. Under the new structure, they would collect $200.00.
Under the old structure, you would be giving REC 2.5% of your gross. Under their new structure, you would be giving them 10.2564% of your gross. This is why fees have gone up.
We used to give a discount if teams would both sign up early and pay us directly. This whole idea of charging more and giving less is not cool. It is tough on everyone, and especially programs like ours where we are not part of a school, but an inner city youth outreach. The kids on our team do not pay anything to participate. If they had to pay, they simply would not be able to do it.
I believe Jason and Miller are both out now and Dan, as seen on the website, is CEO. Maybe some of this mess with rates and such are why? I can see why they would need a fixed rate per team if teams were bypassing the fee, and also why some overall rates may need to go up. The issue I think for everyone was that it was a big surprise to their budgets and all at once. Maybe over a few years would have been better, but then maybe it was so mis-managed they couldn’t afford to wait? Hence the management changes. In many cases, the management that starts an organization is not the one to take it’s growth into the future past a certain point, not unusual at all really. Growing pains…
I would say if there are concerns then email Dan Mantz, I bet he would listen and take all things under consideration in steering the ship.
What is interesting is that by charging the $5 for every team that is registered for the event (including teams from the host organization and teams whose fees were waived for any reason) and teams that pay the EP directly, depending on the size of the tournament and the number of teams that fall into the categories mentioned, the cost to the EP per team paying could well exceed $5.00.
We typically do not compete in our own tournaments. That is rare, though, in our region. We do, however, waive some fees for teams that bring fields or help in other substantial ways. We have also waived fees for teams that are like ours in that they are from very low income areas and would not otherwise be able to compete. That is something we typically have not publicized but this new policy makes that much harder to do.
I started another thread, though, to talk about the fees as this one was getting a bit off course.