I am from a team in Taiwan and the most recent competition in Elimination saw 8 disqualifications in 9 matches. This is because the ref stated that all minor violations will be counted as a major violation and therefore disqualification whether it is match affecting or not. I am not sure if that is supposed to happen but I want to know other people’s thoughts on preventing another event similar to this
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Yeah, I don’t think that is how it should work. It’s supposed to be a major violation and you’re out. A minor violation can only become major if it goes along the lines of this chart.
Maybe in the future if possible try and go up to the head ref and point this chart out. If not then talk directly to the event partner or if there is a rec representative there try talking to them and they would be able to get that fixed.
If I am wrong on any of this somebody just please say so
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I don’t think that’s allowed. Minor violations are distinct from major violations in the rule book, and unless a team has 3 minor violations, or the violation was match affecting, a minor violation can’t be counted as major.
There is no such statement in the rules with regards to quantity of minor violations.
There are exceptions that are spelled out in the Red italicized notes for specific rules that should be followed. In general, follow the flowchart.
The original poster did not say whether or not teams had been formally warned prior to be being DQd.
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Yea it was a warm-up event for everyone so it isn’t really major. I am not sure why they made that decision to make a single minor violation a disqualification though.
Yea I think he said 3 because that was how it worked in worlds during Over Under
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I would say early season- mistakes will be made, it is a learning experience for both teams and officials. Make sure to have Game Manual with you so to have quality discussions with the Head Referee.
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It is actually amazing if none of the teams raised their complain or concerns onsite if the DQs were in fact invalid ones.
If none of the team said anything, I think this is just an one-sided story here
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They did say that minor violations would become a major violation. It was an invitational warm-up round to get everyone more used to the rules. All their judging were by the game manual and they did a pretty good job at it. I was more leaning towards the how to avoid minor violations aspect of it.
Looking at this year there are too many possible accidentally ways on minor violation and to be honest accidental ones shouldn’t be considered to be a violation since there’s so many that it could hurt your alliance’s performance on accident.
Dear RECF officials,
Sorry for the confusion I may have caused with this post. I would like to clarify that not all of the pictures I posted at the start of this post were minor violations that were judged as major violations and resulted in DQ (disqualification). My question this time is simply to ask other teams about their different strategies to avoid common minor violations such as controlling two Goals for defense or accidentally in taking 3 or more rings. The goal of this post was meant to be discussing strategies. It was my fault for not clearly express my intentions in this post. I apologize if my post has hurt any of the hardworking staff and organizers that provided the venue and practice opportunities that day.
Regards,
17022J Team Captain
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As a further note most disqualifications to my knowledge were accumulated from previous minor violations during qualifications
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If you’re talking about last week’s game, a lot of what you said is not true.
In the pre-match meeting, the referees clearly explained the principles for handling major violations and obtained the agreement of all teams.
In the knockout stage,most violations are major violations and lead to elimination, not minor violations as you say.
If you look at the results of the qualifying rounds, you can see that very few teams were penalized because of the consensus reached by all teams in the pre-match meeting.
You mentioned Taiwan at the beginning and spread many false accusations.I am very sad that you are hurting Taiwan in this way, and I also feel ashamed.
By the way, during the pre-match meeting, the referee’s instructions and demonstrations are still given right in front of your team…
If you read our apology we did clarify that that was not our intention. If you properly read our post we did say that I was asking about strategies. Our team completely agreed with the referee’s choices during the competition. When referring to minor violations translating to major ones I was referring to our OWN team. Furthermore, many teams received minor violations such as our alliance partner.
If you are truly worried about us ‘spreading’ bad information then you should know that our team did talk with the hardworking organizers and clarified our intentions to both RECF through my post above yours and to the organizers.
I think what is truly disgusting about your actions is directly attacking and mocking our organization by making an anonymous account, naming it ‘unhappyrobot’ (our organization is called happyrobot), and then making a drama out of something we already apologized and rightfully to the blame for in this situation.
If you do have a problem directly contact us via Instagram instead of trying to ‘insult us’ on an already solved misunderstanding in Vex Forums.
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