EP Summit Thursday Webcast

[TheColdedge]

@Robo_Eng_13

My personal experience being lab notebooks in college. There were some pages that had lasting value that i kept all four years. It is annoying having “Great Job!” written in purple pen at the top of something you reference for years to come.

please tell me this doesn’t happen in vex?

[Gear_Geeks]

@Highwayman

It seems to me that if the position is it’s too much work to do something to make the judging process more transparent to teams so that they have a decent idea of what to do to win (because we already have established that the judging criteria or whatever you want to call it does not do that since it’s only guidelines for narrowing the contenders) then we must also be ok with teams taking the position that it’s too much work to put extra effort towards trying to win something that appears to be a crap-shoot anyways.

Especially now that the requirements are being made so that it’s less convenient to put together a notebook, which is a key conponent for the two awards offered at most events.
It seems like since the judges are already doing so much work, a little extra effort to do something that makes teams appreciate the process more would be worthwhile.

I feel so strongly about the need to give feedback that I did not feel it was too much work and would willingly do it again. But I understand that I may be in the minority on this position!

[Gear_Geeks]

@TheColdedge

You can get a perfect notebook score and bomb an interview .

I can have a perfect Resume and then bomb an interview.

its basically the same.

Right. I was taking the interview into account - because that’s part of the score. We see lots of perfect scores here in Virginia because, well, we’re all above average (Garrison Keillor).

[Robo_Eng_13]

I have a question for those who have more experience judging notebooks and having their notebooks judged. How do you account for development over time? For instance, a team which turned in a terrible notebook at their first competition, learned a lot, and then turned in their notebook at a second competition with the first half still awful and the second half much improved. Does the first half forever lower their score, or do you specifically focus on the quality and content closest to the end of the notebook?