Flywheel Motor clutches popping

Whenever I make the flywheel motors go at 100% speed the clutches start popping and actually broke quite a few times. What I’ve done is making it wind up gradually but it feels very inefficient. Is there a better way to do this? PID?

Honestly, i don’t think most teams will use the clutch on their flywheel motors or really any motors.

@capsule it sounds like to me you are using the clutch as a safety mechanism for your motors. yes it does prevent motors from getting damaged but its causing you more loss than gain. the clutch from what we have tested here at VCAT ROBOTICS causes friction and does not let the flywheels to speed up at the rate that we need it to do so after every time it shoots a ball.

now if you do take the clutch off and nothing changes here are some tips:
the wight of the wheels you are using on a flywheel might cause the motor not to catch up as fast as you need it. 4" wheels are efficient in the fly wheel concept.
and PID also helps alot

@Bilal Rashid @TuroTech

Is it really safe to take off those clutches? Why do we need clutches

I am not very familiar with the robot motors themselves, I mainly do programming for my team.

It is safe to take off the clutches. also one purpose of the clutch is to protect the motor in extreme cases the clutch would ratchet thus protecting the motor from damage.

Yes it is safe. We have never used the plastic clutches in our builds. They are unnecessary and (I think) they have been discontinued. Just feed the axle to the motor.

As far as I know, the ptc will probably do as much protecting of the motor as you’ll.

With the old 3 wire motors, the motors would break so you would use a clutch to prevent it. The newer 393 motors do not need them. Vex even made a part to take the space of clutches so you would not have to change axles if you switch motors and do not use a clutch. These are called shaft couplers.