High Stakes winch climb meta?

VEX Robotics Competition Discussion VRC
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So I was looking for some mechanism that could help our team go through a lvl 3 climb(not building it now but maybe later on the season)

I happen to come across this FRC winch traversal climb and I want to know of what you guys think of it? Or could it be a meta this season?

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While this is a good idea, I don’t think any team that wants to be competitive would do this for High Stakes, because this would require too many motors to be viable in competition. It would also probably not be worth it, as a filled mobile goal in a positive corner is worth more than a tier 3 hang.

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Transversal should be the only (and simplest) way to go for High Stakes, especially since you cannot skip level.

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That doesn’t really work because our ladder doesn’t have enough space for the bot to be like that, there might be some configuration you can use to utilize that design but that specific idea won’t work here because won’t have enough space.

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The main reasons I see preventing the 2022 FRC Climb is that:

  1. Climbs just don’t have much value right now, I think that the GDC might want to re evaluate the entire scoring of this game, just my opinion though
  2. Motors, If I remember correctly my team had to use like 4 motors for our climb that year, that’s 1/2 your motors gone.
  3. 2022 climb don’t really work on a vertical latter like that, they would latch on but when they try to winch up they would just hit the bars.

That being said there is probably a way to modify that climb to work however I think its a lot of effort for not a lot of reward.

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Yeah I agree, this climb mechanism would take an extensive amount of effort to tune for accuracy. In addition, you’d most likely have to use 4 motors anyways, which wouldn’t be viable in this competition, at least not for the current strategies and game rules at hand.

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I do have a lot of configurations and modifications in mind with this Idea like

Having a PTO system where one pto will connect the arm to the intake so when the intake spins it will extend the arm upwards and another PTO which will connect to the 6 motor drivetrain to have the power to lift the robot(Just like in over under) and of course 2 pistons to just align(if needed) the arm to the vertical bar of the ladder

I do agree with the ladder not having much value. That’s why I’m reserving this idea for later on the season and it’s quite risky but I do see some potential in it.

Probably gonna scrap this idea if the value of the ladder didn’t change until the 3.0 version of the manual.

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The robot used in XRC Simulator, HS_Ducc (?), has a similar mechanism for climbing:

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I think this is possible if you use 2 red motors and focus on weight reduction while building.

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I wouldn’t do it like that, I’d do on the corner of the elevation ladder so you don’t have to angle the robot in order to get it past each tier.

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Just look at Gremlin’s bot

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I had a look at thiers and it seems like they are using winch pieces and linear motion to achieve a cascade lift type thing

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My team is currently in the process of building a climb right now. We are using elastics to pull the linear slides up then a motor powered winch in a reverse cascade style to pull down.

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I agree. The amount of space needed for this system would definitely limit other scoring methods, and unless a team wants to use this and abandon scoring on mobile goals, I don’t see it as a meta for this years game. (Gremlin)

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