highlights of the Fifth Asia-Pacific Robot Championship

[Karthik]

I guess it will be up to the referees to decipher this ambiguous rule. I’m sure that by worlds this will be much cleared up, but I fear for more regional competitions there will be multiple interpretations of the rule. Can blocking a robot from the other side of the field be considered legal, whereas stationing yourself in the enemy’s starting tile not?

Or it will be clarified long before World Champs.

https://vexforum.com/showpost.php?p=242854&postcount=3

[jgraber]

. Only that you aren’t allowed to completely prevent access with your robot. Nothing about what happens if you do.

~Jordan

Q&A discussion is ongoing regarding pancake and related.
SweetMochi -Team Wassabi had a video example somewhere that I’ll reference in the Q&A when I get a real pointer to it.

Re Jordan’s quote, my interpretation is different, and the “what happens” is in the first sentence. Same quote again:

Originally Posted by Karthik
Any team touching an opposing Robot which is contacting an Alliance Starting Tile will be considered in a legal loading position as per <SG7>. Teams cannot use their Robot to completely prevent accessibility to the Alliance Starting Tile.

I don’t see any rules against pancaking a starting tile, ie: you are allowed to do it.
It is just ineffective, because doing a pancake ( > ~50% coverage of tile, per recent Q&A update) creates SG7 allowance for your opponent, so they don’t even have to touch the square, just touch your defending robot.

[SweetMochi]

Here’s the video. It’s Final 1 of the BC Season Opener. At ~6:26 look at the left side of the field (red side) for a situation that seems to model “pancaking”.

[meng]

Is that high school or middle school? It looks like all of them are practically the same design.

8066 (aka Zeus) in the video is a middle school team.
In fact, watch out for them during the world championship… middle school world finalist for 2011… and this season, they are even more awesome…

they are definitely pushing my teams really really hard…

as for the similar design (i won’t call it “same”)… well… let’s face it, there are only that few “common” approaches in lifting up the game elements up to 30".
If you look at their robots closely, you’ll notice a bit of variations here and there. So I wouldn’t call it the “same”. but of course, the approaches are very similar, eg. tread… 6-bars… etc…

[Nebraska_Nerd_Herd]

how many elements can the 8113 robot hold?