I looked throughout the game manual and didn’t find anything strictly against this, so does anyone know if there is anything preventing two robots on the same alliance attaching to each other, like for example to get the 30 point bonus in the push back endgame?
I think thats legal.
The rules on Entanglement are the same as they were previously - refer to rule GG14 (Don’t destroy other Robots)
I’m not sure about at the v5rc level, but in VEXU robots attaching to each other for endgame is pretty common and allowed, so i don’t see why not.
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Yes. (see above)
Realistically the only way to get double climb reliably in qualifications/low level eliminations is to have some kind of buddy climb clamp. anything else is trusting your alliance WAY to much to be viable. most robots could probably do a buddy climb with a small piston powered clamp that goes out 3" from non expanded and goes from 6" above wheel plane to 2" above wheel plane. With buddy climbs, Robot weight is going to be a big consideration this year for scouting.
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yes that is legal. I honestly can’t think of a way to do double park without one that doesn’t depend on a good alliance. My team is definitely having one, only question is if it’ll be pneumatic or a halfmotor with a pretty serious torque ratio. depends on what concept we go with for output.
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It will be interesting to see if teams gravitate towards a standardised system for attaching to each other.
If a popular team does a reveal with a good design, some teams may switch to it. Then other teams may start switching to it so they work with the early adopters. Creating a feedback loop where most people have the same system and therefore are compatabe.
Once it got to a point where alot of top teams made reveals with the design then I think most teams aiming for a spot at worlds would adopt it becuase the would see it as the most reliable way to bag the 30 points.
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What type of interlocking mechanism are you thinking of? It would be a little weird because it would need to attach to a mirror image if itself and also similar designs. A train hitch style knuckle mechanism is an option.
Keep in mind this is a preliminary design sketch and probably won’t work, it is only a visual to illustrate what I am thinking.
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Currently, according to the manual, stacking robots, despite being actually shown in the manual as legal, breaks the expansion rule, since it is not measured from the bottom of the robot, it is measured from the field flooring, so if your robot is elevated so the top of it is over 22" above the floor, that is not legal
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I was thinking something like this:
basically just have a standardly placed C-Channel, or maybe a C channel with a square, and on the opposite side have your active mechanism.
this way, if you have a not very good alliance during quals, you can bring a couple that can just screw on in a minute, that way you can get buddy climb no matter what. Also, allows more creativity in design.
and this also means that if one alliance Members lifter breaks, they can tell their partner, and have their partner do the powered lift, while they do passive.
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