Can teammates use laser pointers during a match to direct their driver?
This is not an official answer, but in the past Karthik has always ruled that laser pointers are allowed to align before autonomous starts, but have to be removed before the match. Using them during a match wouldn’t be allowed.
As what I can tell, it will most probably be illegal. Even if you were spectating/in the stands it still would be illegal. But, one question emerges:
If someone uses a laser pointer who is on a team, and is in the crowd, the first offense should the team get penalized or the person gets asked to turn their laser pointer off? Next is what would happen the second time? The person gets kicked out or the team gets DQ’ed? This can go either direction of what should happen.
I don’t see a problem… It’s just a better way of saying get that star next
Using laser pointers in a room with several hundred people staring in its direction is dangerous. (Read the side of the laser pointer). i would hate to be the responsible adult that permitted its use as any injury would be foreseen. And since spectators do not sign waivers, the lawyer in me says some school is not going to have a robotics coach next year.
VEX should add a rule in the VEX manual saying that if you even enter the building/room which contains a VEX Robotics Competition, then you agree to VEX’s terms and conditions, which you abide by rules that anyone can’t affect gameplay wrongly.
Practicing law 35 years, yes that would be a good idea, NOT! If they do, might I suggest that it be labeled the television lawyers relief rule. Safety is not something that you write a rule against.
Practicing law for 5 minutes, I can’t argue any more or less with what you said
I would ask the official forum for a better answer.
I see the problem now… I honestly would stay away from lasers but I would love to see an official awnser
I think it would be considered a form of wireless communications, that is not allowed.
On the official forum, you will get an official answer. It may be different. Whether it is better is a matter for the courts. But let me pose a scenario which would drive an insurance underwriter insane. We regularly hold events with three fields running simultaneously with students from 11-18 years of age. Assuming that the drivers do not need a laser pointer, that leaves 12 potential 11 year old middle schoolers handling lasers or 6 if you limit one per team. Now most lasers handled properly pose nominal risks see Can a pocket laser damage the eye? | Scientific American but we are still talking about 11 year olds who in some states are deemed to lack the maturity to be found culpable of committing a crime but we decide they are capable of wielding safely a potentially dangerous instrument that most still consider a toy. Or look at the you tube videos of the reaction of a winning team jumping up and down, high fiving one another and tell me a laser pointer might be foreseeably waiving about randomly as well.
My team used a laser pointer last year to align the robot. I had to teach them a protocol to use the laser to avoid shining it in someone’s eyes. I always had them start from the floor and raise the laser up to the object. Even then, we had some errant laser beams floating around at times. After that experience, I would not be a proponent of the use of laser pointers during matches. Setting up a robot is a fairly benign operation. Imagine in the heat of the moment - there would be laser beams all over the place. Anyway, we humans, we have the gift of speech as a communications device - we should use it. At a coach, another challenge I have is getting the drive teams to communicate. The use of a laser would be a crutch. Just talk!