Live Remote Competition: 4+ Ball Scoring

During the RECF Live Remote Competition on 11/07/2020, it was noted that the software only allowed 3 balls to be scored in a goal. However, it is possible for a robot to fit up to 6 balls in edge goals, 5 in corner goals, and 4 in the centre goal (though 5 is technically possible) whilst abiding with the Change Up rules defining what counts as scored:

(Page 10 of Game Manual)
"Scored - A Ball status. A Ball is considered Scored in a Goal if it is not touching a Robot of the same
color as the Ball and meets all of the following criteria.

  • The Ball is fully or partially within the outer edge of the Goal.
  • The Ball is fully below the upper edge of the Goal.
  • The Ball is not contacting the foam tiles outside of the Goal"

Images of this scoring are shown at the bottom of this post and in NXS RI8H: https://youtu.be/ILjwfzRk6aQ. These goals, as indicated by the measuring tools, are nearly perfect in regards to their calibration, and the topmost ball easily passes the clipboard test.

As mentioned, the software does not currently permit more than 3 balls to be scored in one goal. As a result, two questions prevail:

  1. Will the software be updated soon to include more than 3 balls within one goal?
    OR
  2. Will the rules be changed to eliminate the validity of goals with more than 3 balls in them?
    In the meantime, will teams have to stick with the 3 ball limit in goals until a potential update or will more than 4 be allowed, if scored manually for example?

The intent of this post is to raise awareness about this contradiction between the game manual and how the competition is run. We appreciate the hard work that RECF have put into developing the Live Remote software understand that it is in its early stages with many hurdles to still overcome.

Many thanks,
Dillan (20785A) and Cole (NXS)

5 balls centre 4 balls 5 balls corner 6 balls

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Hi Dillan & Cole,
I appreciate the note and question. There is some confusion that I can clear up! We have every intention of restricting scoring behavior for live remote tournaments to match documentation produced by the Game Design Committee (in all cases). To answer the question directly, the software will allow more than 3 game objects in a single goal moving forward. In this case, a combination of inexperience running live remote competitions and a mistake by one of our referees led to this ambiguous situation (and your post here to clarify). Thanks for your patience and support as we continue getting this system completely ready for teams and event partners!

Best,
Brad

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I don’t really want to start a new thread so I will ask in here.
Is there anyway that the scoring chart can be pre filled in? The matches have the same amount of balls in every goal at the beginning anyways. And because the color does not matter when you put the balls in it would work every time. (You Mark the goal a different way depending on the color).
It would make the process so much smoother.
Does this make sense?