Lot's of polls lately, so here's one: What's the most annoying thing that happens on VEXForum?

Just for fun…pick your top three!
  • Referring to the referees as “judges”
  • Calling your opponent the “enemy”
  • Mercilessly pinging drow or some other moderator
  • Referring to RECF as “VEX”
  • Asking obvious RTM questions
  • Answering RTM questions without giving a reference to game manual
  • Answering RTM questions with “I think…”
  • Referring to air cylinders as “pistons”
  • Making up nonsense names for stuff (just lately, “bling drive” and “bubble tire”)
  • Complaining that the “herobot trainer” isn’t competitive
  • Making multiple post when only one is needed
  • Making an extra comment instead of just clicking “like”
  • Asking every other team “what’s best” instead of doing your own experiments or research
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Lets be honest: censorship.

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I didn’t see one for needless survey posts. :thinking::joy:

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I violented a few of these with one of my posts…

First of all, here you go:

I’ve asked a few of the “what’s best” questions. The main reason I ask them is because I’m not sure how well the idea will hold up in competition, and testing it myself at a competition is not how I want to find out. My personal least favorite is people writing paragraph-long responses to RTM questions, mercilessly roasting someone who is obviously very new to VEX and the forum, without providing any helpful information whatsoever.

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In certain cases, yes I agree they are ok. For example, on VTOW I asked a few people about the properties of anti-static traction wheels on drivetrains to see if it was worth buying any (dumb me thought “why buy expensive omni wheels and just not 8 cheap{er} traction wheels?” :man_facepalming: ). Things like “what’s the best drivetrain” as a friendly debate are also ok (usually the OP posts his/her opinion too so we know they aren’t just trying to copy what people say).

However, while I don’t necessarily dislike them, I would prefer if someone asked like “what is your comparison on {idea 1} vs {idea 2}? I know that ___, but I don’t know _____” This at least demonstrates that (1) they have settled on two ideas, (2) they demonstrate what they do and do not know, so (3) I better know what to help them on instead of making giant “brain dumps”


It still kind of necessary. It specifically says in the inspection rubric that teams ought to know the game manual and q&a in full, so not providing the answer and “encouraging” (it does get out of hand sometimes, usually if the post was made 1 hour before I assume 4 people already corrected them) them to read the manual will end up being for their good.
As a rule of thumb though, I usually have a 1 or 2 strike policy depending on the question.

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No kmmohn? :disappointed_relieved:

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As much as I would have liked to check that box, with the limit of 3 choices, my other choices I think were more significant to the quality of the Forum, with my number one choice being to always answer “rules questions” with a reference from the game manual.

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When it says this is the first time we’ve seen Xyzzy post, I try to be good and not slam them. I attempt to think the eyes on the other side is a middle schooler. On the other hand, once you get a few posts out there, clearly know what’s going on then I’ll respond. But when they go “I’m an adult/parent/etc” and then say something that is bat crazy (no offence Batman, Brick Bat and the Vampire ) I will mock them first post or not.

So the First Amendment says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press … " So the government isn’t supposed to censor people. On the other hand a corporation, on a forum that they run, can do what they want. I run a number of websites, and have taken down comments in heartbeats. I miss being able to post, fix errors, and DM’s, but it’s their forum, not mine.

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Obviously private entities can censor anything they want on a site they control, that’s their right. But it’s still censorship, it’s just not censorship that the First Amendment prohibits

And of course some censorship by private entities is totally fine, the internet would be unusable if you could just post anything as long as it’s legal anywhere and nobody could do anything about it. But just like a private entity has the right to censor anything they want on their site, people have a right to have opinions on that censorship.

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I have another “top” pick - Naming some already existing mechanisms with some animal’s or person’s names.

Just can’t understand what’s wrong with using proper technical terms.

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People actually do this? I haven’t heard of any, do you know some examples?

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Ya got me here. I’m all "It’s not about the robot, it’s about … " and the ability to elucidate, understand and maybe include others opinions may possibly be one of those skills.

There is an excellent XKCD comment on censorship. (Text isn’t really suitable for here) One of the things that gets missed is the alt text of “I can’t remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort of the ultimate concession; you’re saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it’s not literally illegal to express.”

On the other hand, I need to give you points for the information hidden by your avatar. I see your name and I know that you have been here almost forever. But when I got the VEXForum email notification, I was “ummm, what is that about”.

But to put us back on track to the topic: I’m also not a fan of a question being posted in one subforum like VIQ and getting a response that says "I’ve never used VIQ and my school doesn’t have VIQ but adding :fire: flame throwers :fire: to the front of the robot is allowed. " Like going all in on a poker hand BEFORE the cards have been dealt. :face_with_open_eyes_and_hand_over_mouth:

And seeing Meng’s post above me, a huge fan of people that reply to him along the lines of "never been to Singapore, most likely couldn’t find it on a map, don’t really know anything about Singapore, but you should force them to act like my local school". The cultural gap dissonance clang is audible.

And since I appear to be on a roll and well under the 60,000 character limit, I’m also a huge fan of the 'how mutch cun i majange a sentunce with bad gramma and poor speling asking brodudes questions. " Oh screen just melted, got to go…

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some of these mechanisms have already been named and its not always people making “new terminology”, rather its more likely you just have not called it that, namely the bling drive as others have pointed out, I can see what you mean as people have begun calling the asterisk drive scorpion drive which is just a pointless rename

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Only going to let me pick 3? Come on.

Anyways, worst is probably just the sheer amount of blatant misinformation I’ve seen shared. Don’t post something without a source (and no, my teammate told me isn’t a source).

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In addition to the other in recent comments, from around the ITZ season: “Danny Lift” and “Goliath Intake” come to mind.

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“Yeah we have a Ace robotics hang”

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I thought we were following the industry best practices, walking in the footsteps of the giants - those legendary inventors whose hubris and vanity were overshadowed only by their ingenuity and wild imagination.

Oh, you are saying you dropped by to borrow that USB pigtail adapter to help debug crab drive mode on your new spider crane robot.

Sure, please, help yourself. It is on the top shelf, behind the bottle of Gorilla Glue and a roll of duck tape, right next to the bullhorn, between the old rabbit ears and shark fin antennas. Just be careful not to touch that hanging wire with banana plug because it is connected with an alligator clip to the live Tesla coil. Sorry, I don’t have enough chicken wire to build a Faraday cage around it at this moment.

You asking what am I doing?

Just fixing my old 60 horsepower diesel caterpillar. I think it has a worn out dog clutch or a worm gear, judging by the sounds it makes when I try to run the weasel attachment.

Could you, please, pass me that Phillips #3 and hold the monkey wrench while I use crowbar and mole grips to pull this squirrel cage rotor out.

Thanks for helping!

Good luck with your projects!

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I think we need the opposite poll too…

What is the most satisfying thing that happens in the forum?

  • Kmohn tells someone to read the game manual and provides them a link
  • Lacsap corrects someone on VEX/RECF
  • Gigahertz posts anything about anything
  • Wesley trolls a friendly poll
  • Bkahl posts a meme in response to something
  • Drow posts the new game
  • Foster helps someone with an IQ question
  • JPearman reveals more and more about the internal workings of the V5 system
  • Illanya posts a super long post that I don’t have time to read
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Oh, you are saying you dropped by to borrow that USB pigtail adapter { squareplug to zip) to help debug crab { slither snake} drive mode on your new spider crane {walkie lifty} robot.

Sure, please, help yourself. It is on the top shelf {can’t reach place} , behind the bottle of Gorilla Glue {finger grab goop} and a roll of duck {quacker} tape, right next to the bullhorn {snout yeller}, between the old rabbit ears {marshy cook sticks} and shark fin antennas.

Problem isn’t using animal / people names, it’s not using the term that is currently in use. If you are first, you get to name it. If you are third, you use the accepted name.

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Duct, not duck. It was originally made for air ducts.

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But it’s marketing genius for the Duck Tape company: https://www.duckbrand.com/

It reminds me of what happened in 1984 when the long-distance phone company had to break up.

what phones were like before smart phones

Back in the days before cell phones, each home had a phone, permanently attached to the wall by a cord. Amazingly, we would answer the phone without knowing who was calling us… but I diverge. We had to pay extra (sometimes alot extra) for a long-distance call…that is, any phone number out of our particular area code.

After the breakup, there were many choices for which long-distance carrier would route your call (and bill you the charges), so when you dialed the number, the operator (a real person) would ask you what long distance carrier you wanted. Some clever entrepreneurs started companies with names like “I don’t care” and “anyone” to pick up the business.

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