Motors Overheating?

Hey guys,
The past couple of years working with Vex’s motors (2-wire and 3-wire) Ive always seen a problem with motors over heating. Of course our competition robot’s motors over heat because of stress during competition, but I’ve also seen it in our class robots which are much smaller and much lighter than our competitions…

Do the motors actually “overheat” and stop working or is this a different problem?

Is there a way to fix this if the motors do actually overheat?

We don’t usually change the motors internal gear ratio but we do usually set all of our motors to 127 or -127 in the programming. Does it actually help to change the internal gear ratio to high torque? or does that put it under more stress?

Of course I’ve been curious because we just had our first competition of the season and we were very disappointed to see a non moving robot not even halfway through the competition where everyone else’s robots are much bigger and much heavier than ours and they still work…

Obviously this could be a building flaw of mine, but if anyone has some tips to avoid this problem it would be much appreciated…

Thanks guys!
-Christian

how old are the motors? from my experience motors that have stalled more than 10 or so times tend to stall way much easier.

also make sure the batteries are charged up because motors tend to stall more on lower voltages.

on a side note, people have found that motors actually run faster at about 100 than at 127. I can’t seem to find the thread.

and of course there’s always friction…

What’s going on: http://botsnstuff.com/wiki/PTC

If you search the vexforums for “motor overheating” you will find a plethora of threads talking about the issue; read through a couple of them.

If you post pictures of your design and give us some details about it (ie 1:2 gear ratio, 4 393s on the drive, …) then folks could point out potential flaws with it.

Not true, however, when the motors are connected using the motor controller 29 there is no increase in motor speed after a control value of about 95.

From an old thread.
https://vexforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6475&d=1342324103

I stand corrected.
what’s funny is that was the thread I was looking for :rolleyes:

The thread is here, the discussion was about estimating motor current, there were several others on the same topic that came after this one as we were developing the model that was eventually used in the ROBOTC smart motor library.

https://vexforum.com/t/estimating-269-motor-current-based-on-h-bridge-models/21876/1

Thanks for the replies guys!

Yeah ill have to give further information about the robot in full detail once we are set on designs…

The motors are fairly new and haven’t been under much stress but just seem to burn out like they are old motors…

Ill go ahead and search for some old threads on the subject.

Thanks again guys!