Our WallBot

VEX V5 General Discussion
#21

That wall looks like broken motors and burnt ports.

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#22

Most likely too slippery. We’re capable of deploying it with rubber bands in an instant, and just drive away. and if that does happen, where would you put the wall? you’d spend all your time moving it or moving your robot around it. that is a big hinderance. if it’s wasted their time, that’s a good thing too as driver control only 1:45

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#23

oof
I was thinking like chomping on it like a crocodile then dragging it away. it’ll waste like 10-15 seconds tops and even less for the smaller one. the huge wall shouldn’t be too hard to pull the wall to the other side of the field depending on the wall especially with a holonomic drive so its counter-counter defense. assuming that it takes 45 seconds to get rid of both walls getting 30 cubes stacked within a minute is fairly realistic.

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#24

I thought that was a joke at first, then I realized it could actually work.

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#25

yeah but no bottom teeth. the tray is not that rough, and the arm is flat and cannot pierce throguh holes to be able to grab it. in case of the shaft being extended, perhaps, but i doubt any good team would do that, you would probably have storage issues. plus 10 to 15 seconds could be like 3-5 cubes intaked depending on the bot, that can be a lot, even then, as i stated, the wall still exists. when you go to stack or do alliance tower you still must manuever around it. to rid it from the area will take a longer time and lose more time stackign cubes

edit: 30 cubes in a minute isn’t realistic at all. unless you are playing against 2 v4 teams that only have a drive train, and have a godly ally, not many teams can manage 30 cubes. let’s assume 10 cubes per stack, going in there and positioning is about 5 seconds maybe. you need to tilt the tray slowly. doing that 3 times would take a significant time. then you have to assume you can intake a cube in 2-3 seconds before moving on. that may be possible with a good robot and good conditions but for the vast majority of matches, you will get played defense on, maybe struggle with a few cubes. and keep in mind that you still have to watch out for the towers. the towers are the key at the end of the game. dunno man, and dragging the wall across the field with towers and cubes in the way also seems unrealistic.

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#26

the bottom teeth would be the floor and the top teeth would be the tank treads on the rollers which are pretty grippy.

idk but i just think that blocking both scoring zones is a little bit too much investment in defense. i’d much rather have a 6 motor drive traybot

we’ll see i guess

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#27

the floor would make it more difficult. it’s dragging against the floor providing resistance. gravity is pulling it down into the tile. the tank treads are very slippery when you rub it on aluminium, not to mention the intakes would only be using the edge, the surface area is way too small.

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#28

i mean of course this is going to work against every average team, but at worlds with very high quality bots, i don’t think its going to be super viable. even now you’d be surprised at what teams can do, 30 cubes in a minute is 15 average cubes for 2 bots. and once ur behind the wall you can push it even easier

besides its even easier to win in amount cubes and just minimize the amount of cubes in the cups via defense since its basically 2v1 offensively

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#29

how would you get behind the wall? hop over it? we don’t plan to deploy it like that. and keep in mind we can deploy this at any time

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#30

once u move it enough to get behind u can get behind

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#31

can’t. you can’t just go past the borders of the field
edit to clarify: we are using the border, in the corner, so we just zone it out completely

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#32

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#33

ok if you think your robot is able to move an arm with your slippery intake sure

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#34

wdym, the intake rollers are super grippy

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#35

not at 90 degrees theres barely any grip using the edges

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#36

I want to note that the method of “chomping”, pushing, or pulling is only viable on this model as the wall is on wheels/joints rather than laying flat, built lightly, and not meshed on the floor contacting side.

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#37

Where’s the Patrick meme? Take the wallbot and push it somewhere else?

Seriously, though. Wallbot are effective because they’re so rare, and people don’t really prepare for them. But by having other methods to eliminate wallbots, are wallbots still that effective? It does waste time, but how much time in comparison to an offensive bot? Doubtlessly, wallbots have their effects. But thier effectiveness has always been debated, so I won’t bring that argument up here, however relevant.

And then there’s the risk of a breaking wallbot. If you can’t really repair it on time, you really screw over your partner. NOt something you can really do anything about after the fact, but just a design consideration in build quality.

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#38

i think you will get disqualified from the match

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#39

image

this good?

would add text but school blocks everything that can do that

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#41

use scratch that is what I use to make all of my memes

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