So I was on youtube scrolling through tipping point videos, and I came across a competition video very recently posted. At about 0:48 in the video, the robot on the right started hoarding two mobile goals. This hoarding kept persisting for a good 30 seconds. I’m pretty sure it’s in violation of the hoarding rule, and I just wanted to point it out.
Relevant rules violated:
If you are referring to 3141B on the bottom right, they are clearly in posession of the neutral goal because it is being held in the air by their claw. Though they are hoarding the red alliance goal.
This does not break the rule because they are only hoarding one goal.
It could also be said that 3141B was not actively blocking access to the alliance goal because the other robots were all fighting with each other in the center.
3141b was only hoarding 1 goal in this scenario because the goal they were holding was fully possessed by them and does not count as being hoarded.
They are most definitely NOT hoarding in the match you posted. No doubt about it.
But I noticed something interesting. Looking through 3141B’s YouTube channel, they have a match video from the same tournament, but their Semifinals match, not the Quarterfinals match that you posted.
Were you referring to this match?
At one point in the video, it looks like a robot was trying to grab the mobile goal in the corner. The robot still had a mobile goal in its claw, and it was trying to use the drivetrain pneumatic hook to grab the third one. They are clearly blocking at around 1:10 in the video and repeats this another time.
I wasn’t referring to this match, but I also noticed similar hoarding in this video.
Sorry, I didn’t watch that far, so I missed that.
Can you be more specific with robots/cite what exactly is a violation? I’m watching this match and I am seeing excellent gameplay with no violations.
This figure shows a violation:
It’s not exactly a 1 to 1 recreation, but I would say it’s pretty close.
I would say there are substantial differences.
3141B (red) is holding a single neutral mogo in its possession.
Blue robot (don’t know the number) is holding both a blue alliance mogo and neutral mogo in its possession.
Blue attempts to get the red alliance mogo. Red defends the mogo. Red is hoarding 1 mogo since possession is excluded from hoarding.
Robots are allowed to hoard 1 mogo, so it is legal.
But the red mogo can still constitute being hoarded by this rule:
The red robot is blocking the red mogo, so it’s hoarding 2 mogos.
Its not hoarding two mogos because it’s possessing one of the two. it is hoarding the red mogo, but there is no second mogo its hoarding. In the description you just posted, it notes that if it blocks an opposing robots access without directly possessing it then it is hoarding. Since it is possessing the neutral mogo and hoarding the red mogo, this is legal.
As boring as this gameplay is, it is not a rule violation. Hopefully some additions to our robot will make it more fun for us and our opponents at our next tournament. We also did this in every eliminations round, so you could have linked the R16 instead, since it was more entertaining 
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It was nice to sit in that corner and contemplate life. Playing a violent game can be stressful sometimes, you know?
this wouldn’t be the case since they are clearly possessing one of the neutral mogos
