- SG2B Implies that size limits for robots are rough 15in by 15 in as “[22in limit] refers to the horizontal distance measured between any two points of the Robot, including
diagonals, relative to the playing Field (i.e., it does not rotate with the Robot).” If the diagonal of sqaure bot was 22in, the sides are roughly 15. - Theres needs to be a rule that locks goals at the end of the match to make double parking worth it, I don’t see teams going for parking, when they need to defend goals from being descored, or do descore themselves.
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I was thinking the same thing.
If a square bot is in spec and they use diagonal measuring for expansion, it wouldn’t fit (Pythagorean theorem to calculate diagonal of a square).
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I noticed the diagonal is wrong as well. Seems to be a typo that needs fixed.
18 x 18 already has a diagonal bigger than 22”
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The diagonal is actually an issue and I am glad you caught that because I missed it.
Secondly, if both team go for parking bonus and are successful it is 30 points so if both teams commit it could be worth it but if only one commits not worth it at all.
Third, since parking bonus is basically drive over a hump I see no reason to go for it in the last 5 seconds of the game because you will probably be going full speed anyways.
SG2B seems like it needs confirmation from the GDC ASAP since teams will very shortly (probably already started) start building chassis. If this holds, an 18 inch long robot can only be roughly 12 inches wide to meet the diagonal less than 22 inch.
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Addition- SC4b is unclear. Can you park with blocks?
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lol… not sure is it because they used a Gen AI model that still couldn’t do math.
But I presumed what GDC meant is a max of horizontal diameter of 22” ? Or something along this line? -
as for the double parking - I do think it is worth it, regardless of whether is it double or single park (for beginners that struggle to score).
Quick double parking will be vital by the time we reach the later part of the season. 30 pts is enough to off set quite a lot of control points.
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I think that double parking will not be likely until later in the season, as both robots can only have contact in the with the field in the 16.86"x18.87" parking zone. Two robots around the 18"x18" sizing (maybe, depending on the diagonal rule) will be very difficult to fit and will definitely take a unique mechanism.
""and mention not rotating with the robot. I’m confused on what this is supposed to mean given the parts of your robot will probably rotate with your robot. Perhaps this has something to do with the diagonal ruling. Did I just misinterpret or what is going on here.
“…including diagonals, relative to the playing Field (i.e., it does not rotate with the Robot)”
“…to the highest point of the Robot, and does not rotate with the Robot.”
the rules are sg2b and sg3b
From the field walk-through, they will not be locking goals. They mentioned wanting you to weigh the pros and cons of going to park right at the end of the match. I both see no reason to change this rule, even if parking isn’t “meta”, and i don’t see the game commitee locking goals to make parking more viable.
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From my understanding of the field walk through, they didn’t want teams to chose park or no park but make teams wait till the last second to park, which if you make the locking short enough where ideally teams might want to start parking before the locking depend on how fast they can double park should achieve their goal.
I assume they want teams parking to challenge design of robots. There’s a reason why corners locked last year.
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honestly, try hole counting the hero bot, if the hypotenuse of that is longer than 22in then we know that the starting position rule is just an error
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Unfortunately, at the moment, the bot is 12.5’’ (and some change) x 12.5’', having a hypotonus of ≈17.68.
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if you want to start in any rotation. it should be easy enough to just rotate and then use that extra 3 inches on each side
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ok so then in that case the diagonal rule might be intentional
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Also want to add on that the diagram in the rule book showing a robot on top of another robot for double parking is illegal as vertical expansions says no robot can be above 22 inches in game field height, 2 robots of that size in the diagram are easily over 22 inches
The GDC has said that they are going to fix the expansion rule. I assume that’s just making the box move and rotate with the robot.
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Here it is (Twt cha)
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