Pushback seems dangerous?

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So when watching the trailer it did show that in parking you can park the 2 robots next to each other to score 30 points but looking at the game manual that seems to counter that with “The Robot is not contacting the Floor outside of its Alliance-colored Park Zone.”… So unless I am misunderstanding this part of the manual this will be based on the picture under to show what “legal” is.

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So far as I understand using this picture here, the second robot would be hanging above the wall where also team members are standing behind that same wall… This seems a bit dangerous for if the second robot falls backwards it will hit those behind… I was wondering if anyone else had the same thought or if I am just weird like that…

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In the video both robots are canted on the barrier, so the only tiles they are touching are inside of the parking zone. Perfectly legal.

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I highly doubt pushback will have more bots leaving the field than tipping point.

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It’s just for demonstration. This would be outside of vertical size limits before it got to dangerous sizes, and people who follow <G3> (use common sense) would get away before anything happened.

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It’s basically nothing but net endgame where you had to elevate your teammate and I don’t think there were accidents there

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Skills issue. this is kidna irreleveant and there were bots lifting bots back in nothing but net.

insane match btw

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Honestly, most students get excited when they are allowed to do stuff like this.

Dangerous to the robots - yes… there will always be an element of risk involved.
Dangerous to the students - ermm… it has been done many times before.

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Like this - or did I dream it?

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Oh this was the reality

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I remember the alliance partner’s coach was telling her team not to get lifted because it was so dangerous :slight_smile:

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lol… I almost wanted to use this photo to get my physics students to work on identifying where is the CG.

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This is not legal, the heigth of the robot is based off the floor, or when parking based on the top of the park bar, and not the bottom of the robot, so the top bot is way out of size

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wait… vex have linear slide?

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Yes they do:

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There probably won’t even be any robots capable of climbing another robot. That picture was just an example.

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i mean unless you do some really precise movement to ensure the 2 robots arent touching the ground outside of the parking zone i think most teams will just do what the example picture is… but i guess we will see…

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Still, its odd to include examples that arent legal. This manual seems to have quite a few mistakes like this, same with the 22" horizontal rule, that a clearly just rules that werent given enough thought and will hopefully be corrected

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If i had to guess they probably made those pictures, saw that it would be very dangerous and wrote a rule to cover for themselves… and didnt think to change the pictrue? Its weird and hope they do correct it else itll cause a lot of confusion I think.

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Like you said the robots can not touch the floor outside the parking zone. However if it can be weighted so that it rests in the zone and lifts the wheels off the floor tiles using the zone marker as a fulcrum, then it’s a legal park. If both robots can do this then there’s not need to lift one of the bots like this. I believe the video indicates this kind of double parking along with the lifted bot.

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