I have a question on T3. T3 states, “Head Referees may not review any photo or video Match recordings when determining a score or ruling.” However, are students allowed to watch videos taken by themselves on the field? For instance, if there is a dispute in the positive corner between two teams, and one team thinks that the other has violated a rule, is it legal for the drive team to look at the video to confirm their suspicions, but not use it to aid the referee in their decision? Additionally, can the drive team of one team on the alliance look at their alliance’s video for confirmation?
While it is legal, it means nothing, as the referees have no means of knowing if the video evidence is true. I’ve even gone so far as to get the opponents to agree after video evidence, and referees still stick with their decision.
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On this issue, I have been a scoring referee before, and this has come up somewhat. Yes, students can review the footage, as they do not score or affect the rulings of a match directly. The students are not allowed to use it to aid the referee, as specified in T3. I hope this helps.
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You can look at the video after the match is scored and everyone leaves the field
The Head Referee in my Region, Adam, has been a stickler about this for as long as I can remember, as some issues have come up and people tried to show him the footage, causing him to reiterate the issue.
After the worlds drivers meeting, I have a follow up question. In the video, one of the two said “Because teams are not allowed to have connected devices on the field, teams cannot watch video footage until they leave the field (referencing G8a and T3 ).” However, if you take your own video, are you able to watch it? it does not need to be a connected device taking the video, which would make it fully compliant with T3 (as the refs never see the video) and G8a (“Non-headphone devices with communication features turned off (e.g., a phone in airplane mode) are allowed,” as it is written in the game manual. Additionally, will this make it illegal to video during matches?
Isn’t that referring to the official vex live stream?
Also they say teams cannot review footage on the field, but I would assume that if there is someone standing outside the field they could film
That’s what I assumed, but I wanted to clarify.
Would this not be illegal, as this would be in a situation with a possible dq, and drive team members cannot consult non-drive team teammates when discussing violations?
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Sorry, I misunderstood.
It was saying that it would be legal for the team members outside the field to film but you are correct it would be illegal for them to give it to the drive team while they are still at the field
It is not illegal to film a match, but it is illegal to use that recording to influence the referees’ decisions. It’s just black and white.
I am aware of this. However, in the drivers meeting, it was said that it was illegal to view match footage at the field, but I didn’t know if that meant just the official footage or footage taken at the field, because it doesn’t violate any rules in the manual.
Whoever told you that it’s illegal to view the footage at the field is wrong, it is not prohibited. It is prohibited to show the referees the footage.
13:51 in the worlds driver’s meeting. This is what I need clarified.
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Basically, they can’t view the match footage to try and influence the referees’ decision, they can view it after.