and I was really wondering: what limits me from registering my team from a different region than my current one? Is there anything in place to stop me from registering from Madagascar, while I live in Canada? Do I need to have a mailing address in the location I register from to be able to do it? What about if I temporarily move to another region, register a team, and move back? What would be my repercussions?
Also, if I moved to a country with no other VRC teams at all, would I be qualified for World Championships, and would this be valid if I am not originally from said country, just visiting, etc. Please explain all these questions and perhaps expand a bit more, thanks.
Sorry for the confusing, hypothetical question.
TL;DR: Can I register from a region I temporarily reside in?
To get a definite answer, you should email RECF or ask in the World Championship Q&A topic. I believe that you need to be registered where you will compete, because you can only qualify to worlds from that region. You can compete in other states, just not qualify for worlds.
As for the question about registering in a country with no competitions, I don’t think you automatically go to worlds, but it’s an interesting situation. You would probably need to compete in the nearest country with a competition. But, just like the above, I would ask the RECF to get an official answer.
While I can’t answer officially, this is the case, from what I’ve learned from others.
Whether or not you intend to compete in that specified region, and possibly whether or not you live there.
Most people’s Morals, Ethics *
And The RECF.
Yes
Then you’d either have to change the country of registration, or leave the team.
Unsure.
With VEXU, teams have to participate in at least one qualifying event, hence teams from Lebanon going to the US to compete. I assume something similar for VRC.
If you live in that region, then I presume yes. But once you move, you must change your team’s region back to your current location.
Once again I am NOT in any way associated with the RECF, so this could be wrong, but from information I’ve collected from others, this seems accurate to some extent.
Our team has had a bit of experience in this area as far as qualifying areas for Worlds go. Due to our location, Southern Illinois, we are separated from many of the Illinois teams up north by about 6 hours. Even though our team as well as 1142 has worked on growing the Southern Illinois Area we still have only around 10-12 teams. If you go about an hour West across the Mississippi River to Missouri though you will find a very large group of teams, around 30-40, with whom we compete against quite frequently. Last year we contacted our RECF Regional Manager and requested that we participate in the Missouri State Championship which was set to be about 2 hours away from us instead of the Illinois State Championship which is about 6-7 hours away. The biggest problem as far as this goes is that the World Qualifying Spots are based on total Region Enrollment. If every team tried to do this based on the quality of the teams as well as the number of Qualifying Spots at the Championship event, it would create a huge problem. I will also add to this that the only way it makes sense for our team to do this is travel. The’re more Qualifying Spots available in Illinois and Missouri has one of the elite VEX American teams in 7232. Not saying the Illinois Teams are bad, 333 and 355 have kept me awake at night, but the level of 7232 is unreal. The best answer to the OP’s Questions is for you to contact your RECF Regional Support Manager and the other Area’s Regional Support Manager Robot Events and see what they have to say. In most cases if your need is understandable they will work with you as much as possible.
I think you should try to earning your qualification for this season in the usual way. I think you would find it a rewarding experience, and I think 0 out of 10 people on this forum would approve of trying to get to Worlds through a technicality like this (even though, as others have said, it wouldn’t be possible). You’re on this forum, so you already have a good head start against the majority of teams when it comes to trying to qualify. I think there are at least 43 different examples of decent robots or designs that have been revealed already this season and that you could build upon.
Well these micronations may be the way to go! Rose Island is one of the more infamous micro nations. The only trouble is you may have to have a qualifying tournament at said location.
Probably more worth your time and effort to create a kick butt robot with all that time and money. Or register 100 more teams in your local area to boost spots than travel 1/2 way across the world for a Vex worlds spot. Just tell them they can only use a squarebot kit.
I’d suggest you understand the full story before you make pointed posts like this. The question was posed in a hypothetical manner. It was asked in order to understand the rules and maybe point out that there doesn’t seem to be anything to prevent this from happening. You probably dont care, but work is already being put into our robot, I’m just asking a question. Smh people.
That’s a good point, although 100 more letters + registering all them for a competition would be like 100(50)+x(50) which is probably more than a two-way ticket.
I’m interested to see what the Principality of Sealand has to offer in terms of a VRC team. A tournament on the deck of their sea platform would be pretty cool, in nice weather.
I can understand why you’re upset, it’s frustrating when people spread things around second hand. However, I fail to understand how you can expect people to know the full story when it has not been disclosed.
Then, I’ll explain that basically we were slightly unsure of the score. We e-mailed with the event managers to confirm the score, which they told us was correct. Later, we were getting more questioning from other teams we know, and we again, e-mailed the judges doing the skills competition to confirm. They again, told us their records were correct. No one on our team was sure of the score so we decided to take their words for it. Two confirmations from the judge, etc.
Our mind was clear.
I dont want to debate this issue again, I just want everyone to know it’s in the past, and we sincerely hope nothing like this pops up again. Any comments directly related to the questions in the first post are welcome. Questions concerning the morality of it, and previous events are not, as they do not pertain to what is being asked.
We didn’t weren’t keeping track, so we trusted that those who were hired by the organizers to do that very job. After asking for confirmation twice, we assumed they reviewed it to double check and it was correct.
Again, I would not like to continue the thread in this direction. Any replies that are directly related to the first post are welcome.
For the record, there are many incorrect statements being passed around as facts here. None of the volunteers at the tournament in question were able to confirm the score in question. (No one remembered it happening, but also no one was certain that it didn’t happen) However, since there was no proof that score was not valid, and the students on the team in question insisted numerous times that they had indeed achieved the score, we decided to let the score stand.
I apologize for the misinterpretation. I was not directly involved in the conflict, but was informed by the others on my team. I suppose I was told a skewed story as well.
Could you try to answer the first question? No one has answered it in full with confirmation yet.
https://vexforum.com/showpost.php?p=375992&postcount=34
It’s interesting you chose to quote that post rather than Karthik’s post above it where he says that he thought it was very suspicious/wrong but that the team members all swore it was correct.
As mentioned before, contacting an RECF rep would 100% clarify this. And if they do answer to an email, please share, as I’m interested in RECF’s view of this hypothetical situation.
I hope you don’t get the impression that the community is maliciously attacking your team, although I can see in this thread why one might think that. People here are simply upset because there are a lot of teams that work hard and deserve a Worlds bid, way more than 450 in any case. The mere IMPLICATION, whether substantiated or not, that a team obtained a spot through ANY dishonest means frustrates and disappoints a lot of people who believe in this competition as a fair and positive experience. For the team in question to come back onto the forums and inquire about loopholes through which teams could sidestep the system to gain a worlds bid… This raises a lot of eyebrows and, as you said, “digs up dirt” and hostility from last season.
I can offer my answers.
Could you get away with registering your team in another country to qualify? Maybe, although I’d imagine that since you’ve asked this, RECF will be extra careful to watch for this when registering Worlds teams.
Should you do it? I would say definitely not.
Would you? That is a moral question which is entirely up to you.
I understand that many teams worked hard to get there. Us getting there with the controversy does not mean we didn’t spend many nights without sleep building just like everyone else.
As for this coming the season after from the same team. This is simply my inquiring mind, no one else on my team is involved with this question I was just curious because of a team I met at worlds from a small African country (The name slips my mind) with next to no teams in their area, they managed to make it to worlds with little more than a push bot. I was really curious as to how that worked.
Again, thanks for the answer. This was a hypothetical question that others took too seriously.
