What yall think pushback will be?
I think it will pretty strongly lean on the torque side, since
1: the match loaders are so close to the main goals
2: unlimited possession allows tray-bots (I have a feeling that won’t become the meta, but we’ll see) to hoard blocks and eliminates the need for fast cycling like over under
3: there will be A LOT of push fights (likely another reason for the game’s name), since alignment at the goal is really important, like wall stakes in hs or rollers in su (you very likely won’t need a holonomic drive since you can just make an aligner off of the bottom of the goal, like the wallstake aligners in hs) . The robots won’t be completely torquey though because there are a lot of areas to defend (2 on each end of 4 goals, 4 for match loaders, and 2 endgame ig), so you still need some speed to move around. I feel like short robots would also be good for endgame, but weight doesn’t really matter as much because theres no elevation (in fact, you probably want a heavier robot for endgame to work, but that’s just speculation). Lastly, I think 6 motor drive, 2 half-motor front rollers like in tt/the hero bot, and 1 motor (or maybe half if you’re pushing it (pun intended)) for flex wheel rollers and top hood will work, and a descorer can be like a pneumatic claw thing that extends out of the back of the robot to kind of scrape the blocks out, but that really depends on expansion rules.
Here’s a preliminary cad I made right after the game reveal (the hook thing on the left is a descorer, obviously a bad angle but it was rushed):
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I agree since I would prioritise acceleration over speed since you have to move quickly between the match load towers and the tube thingys. At the same time you may need a lot of force to make sure that opponent bots do not score or that your bot can score with another bot at the end.
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What about scoring the Upper Middle Tube and Lower Middle Tube.
Sidenote - I think the Lower middle Tube could just be scored by shoving but it has a lip so IDK
An octoball could be scored into the lower tube even though it has a lip. The lip is about 3/4 of and inch (if I remember correctly), and the octoballs are over 3 inches and they additionally have the angled sides, allowing for an easy plow to get it over the lip. Hope this solved your problem.
This would have to be tested, but you could probably just make an aligner off of the yellow metal thing like the wallstake aligners in high stakes. They might be different though because a pole is easier to align to than a weird L shape, and the wallstakes might need less alignment than these goals.