I want my team make easy robot.
Robot make big shield.
Drive shield under fence then no move.
Shield no touch ground other fence side.
Friend robot put star may be cube over fence in shield.
Enemy robot no can get star may be no can get cube.
This good easy robot yes?
Your English aside, I think you’d rather put your energy into making a push-bot, which is still easy to make. I’ve seen one at a competition that my school hosted that was really good and vaulted into the #2 spot after qualification matches ended.
Ok push robot design not good design.
We want stop enemy robot get star and get cube.
We make very big shield fold out very strong.
When enemy robot no get star and cube we win match.
Do shield robot design allow in competition?
Sorry for bad English.
Other language better.
Program language much better.
So… To sum it all up you want to make a wallbot?
A wallbot(shield robot) is, in fact, allowed. But it can somewhat lead to you being disqualified in some over-judged competitions mainly because the rules state that you can only pursue offensive strategies. You got to be really skeptical about what you do, and you should really listen to the judges if you were to pick this choice.
Reading between the lines, I think that he wants to make a wall bot for the bottom of the fence:
As such, this shouldn’t be illegal, but you will be harasses by push bots. Make sure you have a break system or else the whole robot is useless.
Oh my bad, then I agree it shouldn’t be illegal. (Sorry for very simple vague response)
This has to do with <SG6a>, a rule that has not seen much clarification. This thread has some good discussion of it, but unless Karthik answers some Q&A’s and provides clarity this time, it is hard to tell if this strategy is legal.
However, in general, it seems like <SG6a> says you can’t pin, trap, or grab your opponent. We still have almost no idea what it means to trap your opponent because Q&A answers have gone back and forth on it. Search through the Q&A’s for “SG6a” and you will know what I mean.
Blocking the bottom fence isn’t qualified as trapping because the opponent can go over the fence. If you block the top of the fence and the bottom, then that would qualify as trapping because the opponent can’t go past their side of the fence. That is my take on the trapping discussion. I did not participate in the mass Q&A, so correct me if I am wrong on something.
Yes but wall make shield area on fence other side for friend robot drop star and cube over fence inside wall.
Star and cube easy make big score in wall.
Enemy robot no can get star and cube in wall.
You mean say brake system yes?
Stop robot move?
We say break system not good robot system ha ha.
Easy make many motor drive robot very strong push.
Easy make latch on robot click under fence so stop pushing robot push you back.
Thank you for explain “SG6a” .
This very confuse yes?
We think we make wall robot!
Shut game down for enemy robot.
I think what your robot’s gonna be doing here is walling off an area on the opponents’ side and dumping stars and cubes behind that wall, scoring them and preventing the opposing robots from reaching those objects. In my opinion, that would be trapping the opposing robots. That’s illegal under <SG6a>.
Trapping is still not yet clearly defined, but I think his robot here would qualify as a trapper. My take on trapping is when you physically prevent an opponent from accessing an area of their field. Besides, I personally think his design would be unfair to the opposing alliance in that it prevents his opponents from getting a chance to score by depriving them of scoring objects to throw back over.
Even if it’s not a large portion, it might still be illegal. If it is a “large” portion it is definitely illegal. (I think. That seams to be what Karthik is saying. He still hasn’t said what qualifies a portion as to large. He says that any portion is to large, then he says that sticking an arm over is legal. Still very confused.)
The moral of this story is that @De Mentor’s robot idea is almost definitely illegal.
EDIT: if there were anything I could say definitely about <SG6a> (besides that it is confusing) this would be it.
You are not allowed to latch on to the fence. Also, i like how you indirectly criticized me on my 1st spelling error and then proceeded to make the same error later in your statement. Also, just having many motors won’t allow you to push more. You need torque. Unless you want to make a slow drive base, I would suggest against that. As the others have said, most of your robot is, without a doubt, illegal. I recommend thoroughly reading the rule book and the Official Starstruck Q&A before making any designs.
If you build a robot like you said with it holding all the stars and cubes in a shield, it will count as supporting those stars and cubes. Since it is illegal to touch the other low zone, you can only be touching your low zone and therefore scoring all the objects in your shield against your team , rendering the design useless… unless you want to be scoring against yourself…
It make me very happy you like.
We be friends yes?
Sorry I no explain good.
Shield not support star and cube.
Sheild more like picture frame.
Star and cube protect in frame but touch on ground inside frame ok?
Your robot’s gonna be illegal anyhow.
Yes we can be friends. But onto the analysis. It is illegal for your robot to touch the mat past the other teams white line. You can get disqualified for that. It is fine, however, if stars and cubes do. Also, to make your design work, I seriously recommend a brake system. You are not allowed to latch onto the fence, so the only way for your robot to not get pushed when blocking is to either make it have really high torque, which is sacrificing speed, or make a brake system.
You are always welcome to ask if you didn’t understand something I said.
As seen here no not legal
I understand what you say. Still not legal.
Ok I look at link.
Answer say wall on other side of fence not legal.
Very clear.
Then answer say cage around star on other side of fence yes legal?
So wall not legal but cage yes legal.
How cage different from wall?
A cage is made out of a bunch of walls, so if walls are not legal, so are cages.
Bottom line is, you’re headed into trippy territory here. I’d rather focus on an offense robot than a defense robot here.