Unofficial answer: De-scoring the 5 pt zone

[B-Kinney]

OP: “De-scoring the 5 pt zone”

@:@2990C Kronos

Can a robot push, from one side, an opponents mobile goal out of the opponents 5 pt zone?

After looking in VexDB’s Q&A database (and the Q&A Summary, which didn’t have it), I found a Q&A thread that answers your question. (“Moving an opponent’s mobile goal in the 5 Point Zone?”)

Here is the answer (emphasis mine):

Provided no other rules are violated in the process, this would be legal.

If attempting this type of maneuver, please be cognizant of both <SG5> (which states that Robots may not intentionally or accidentally, indirectly or directly, remove Cones from an opponent’s Stack) and <SG6> (which states that Robots may not grasp, grapple or attach to the opponents’ Mobile Goals).

Edit: As @GBHS VEX Member pointed out, it is in the Q&A Summary, but the last part of the URL wasn’t written out.

[Lord_Jrome]

I was at a tournament a couple of weeks ago where this question came up, and so long as there are no cones on the opponent’s mobile goal and your robot does not grab the goal on multiple sides (you can hook your arm over the goal or push it, but you can’t pick it up), you can move the goal out of the 5 point zone or just flip the mobile goal over to prevent the other team from scoring it.

[536Mentor]

@Lord_Jrome

I was at a tournament a couple of weeks ago where this question came up, and so long as there are no cones on the opponent’s mobile goal and your robot does not grab the goal on multiple sides (you can hook your arm over the goal or push it, but you can’t pick it up), you can move the goal out of the 5 point zone or just flip the mobile goal over to prevent the other team from scoring it.

It doesn’t matter whether there are cones on the mobile goal or not, you can push it out of your opponent’s 5-point zone.

[GBHS_VEX_Member]

@B-Kinney

(and the Q&A Summary, which didn’t have it), I found a Q&A thread that answers your question. (“Moving an opponent’s mobile goal in the 5 Point Zone?”)

It’s there, just the URL is truncated. It’s the second URL in the Pushing / gathering / hoarding section in Interaction with Opposing Mobile Goals.

(What? I’m not a creepy guy who keeps tabs on a question that I asked that is actually being referenced! Totally not )

But yeah, it is legal for the teams to push other stacks that aren’t in the 10 or 20 point zones. As stated above, the number of cones on the mobile goal doesn’t matter. I think that is just a wrong call on the ref.