[Unofficial] Concerning Autonomous Scoring

[SweetMochi]

In response to original question here:

Answered: Concerning Autonomous Scoring

I have been hearing a lot about scores not being counted during autonomous because their manipulator is touching the sack(s) i never read anything about it not counting. I know that if its being supported by the robot then it doesn’t count but if its scored and touching the sack its not counted?

This was cleared up at the Jumpstart tournament.

From the manual:

Scored – A Scoring Object is Scored in a Goal if it meets one of the following criteria.

1. A Scoring Object is partially within the three-dimensional space defined by the outer edges of a Trough or High Goal, projected upwards and infinitely perpendicular to the playing field.
   a. For a Scoring Object to count under this clause, it must not be touching a Robot of the same color as the Goal
   [SNIP]
2. A Scoring Object is touching a Floor Goal, and not touching any other foam tiles.
   For a Scoring Object to count under either clause, it must remain in a Scored position, if/when all Robots were removed from the field. (By removed, we mean removing the robot and its contents from the field. Referees will be instructed to gently pull robots away from the Goal if necessary) i.e. The Scoring Object must not be supported by the Robot.

Both of the rules are mentioned here, though 1 seems to take precedence over anything in 2.

[Warrior5]

I think the part about pulling the robot away refers to if the *opposing *robot is touching. For example if a blue robot is touching sacks in the red trough.

[SweetMochi]

I agree, the intent of the pulling robots away is to see if opposing robots have sufficiently descored the sacks as to be supporting them. The rule of not touching your own scored sack goes without saying.

[Ruiqi_Mao]

Our team lost our first couple of autonomous bonuses yesterday at the Bellarmine tournament because we were touching our sacks after autonomous. So make sure your robot backs away from the trough before autonomous ends.

[StanleyToney]

I did go all nitpicky on the Q&A covering just this (https://vexforum.com/t/answered-further-question-on-scoring-esp-during-autonomous/22407/1 ) just to be sure.

Short version: any sacks being touched by you in your trough at the end of autonomous don’t count. We lost the bonus on our first match of the year because the programmer forgot to back up after scoring. Would have won the match with the bonus.

Stan