Please know that the GDC and the RECF have been dealing with this issue for a long time, but it seems to have gotten much worse in recent years. The opinions I am giving in this thread are my own opinions that I share with the GDC and the RECF when they ask. There are several people on the GDC from both organizations and some certainly don’t share my opinions, but some do.
I have always been vocal about how I think things should work, so why stop now … again, I am but one voice, but as co-chairman of the GDC I always stand behind the answers we have given. The GDC does what it can to address every concern.
While R1 will be made crystal clear next season, it is clear to me. We said a team will only compete with one robot. If two teams compete with one robot, then that is not one team competing with one robot. again, we will make this so painstakingly clear that if you do it, then you are simply breaking the rules because you don’t think you will get caught and you are completely missing the point of this program. Let’s discuss that for a minute.
@TheColdedge I respectfully disagree with you regarding making only rules that are enforceable. There are some on the GDC that agree with you. As long as I am on the GDC and have influence over the rules, enforcement will only be a small consideration. This hit me hard during the motor PTC cheating exposure several years ago where we DQed almost 50 teams at VEX Worlds. The rule has been there for years, but teams where cheating and we really had no way for EPs to enforce it. We needed that rule because if we didn’t have the rule, then it would have been allowed. Just because we can’t enforce it effectively, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be a rule. I know for EPs this is difficult, but we are trying to achieve something much bigger. The community needs to help enforcement. I’m not saying witch hunt behavior, but I am saying peer pressure is a very influential thing. If you follow the logic of enforcement, then we would not have the rules in IQ regarding mentor built robots. This is clearly illegal, but how do we enforce this? We have tried different things and maybe some will stick. But it is imperative that the GDC and RECF must state what we want the intended behavior to be regardless of how hard something is to enforce. We need to say, “we don’t want you modifying your pneumatic cylinders”. We need to say, “mentors are not allowed to build your VEX IQ robot”. We need to say, “don’t give your robot to another team because you already qualified for States and you want them to qualify.” We NEED to say that those things are not OK.
I am also proposing that we expand the “use common sense” rule and “don’t be a jerk” rule to state our expected behavior of teams.
In my opinion, some of these things should not need to be said; but here we are. Why do I really need to tell you that you can’t build one robot and share it among all of your teams? Seriously? But, now we will have to dedicate way more space in the manual to it because of people who say, “well you don’t say we can’t”.
We are going to say you can’t. We are going to assign HARSH penalties to those of you who break the rules. We are going to clearly state these penalties. They will be harsh, especially on rules that are harder to enforce.
We have ALWAYS had this stance. We have been harsh before on cheaters. We will continue to be harsh on cheaters. Cheaters have no place in the VEX Robotics Competition and the VEX IQ Challenge. I can tell you that they have no place at VEX, the RECF, or IFI.
Now, with written rules there are always fringe things that should be legal, but by the letter of the rules may not be. That is why we have the Q&A. However, we need the community’s help. If you witness someone with questionable behavior, then say something.
We are trying to inspire and educate the future of our world. That is what is important. While qualifying for Worlds is great, it is not important. It is ok to have it as a goal. It is not ok to get there at all costs.
We have tried to keep the rules succinct and make some assumptions of reasonableness in our competitions. However, some have simply asked what I consider to be unreasonable questions. 1 robot per team should be clear. We will no make it more clear. 1 robot per 2 teams is NOT 1 robot per team.
I get it. Most of our community is reasonable and have impeccable integrity. Some in our community do not and we need to do our best to not punish the majority to sniff out the few.
Simply put, the GDC will state what actions we want; state what behavior is acceptable; and state the penalties for not following the rules.
I look forward to discussing with EPs (if Dan let’s me speak:)) at the EP Summit and at VEX Worlds on ways to solve these issues.
I look forward to the reasonable discussion.