VIQC Ringmaster Score

VEX IQ Competition Discussion VIQC Ringmaster (2017-2018 Game)
#1

Hello all, i got several questions about VIQC Ringmaster Score

  1. If rings are stacked when in the floor goal area, will it be considered as 1 or 0?
  2. If rings and touching the floor goal and holded by another ring, will it be 1 or 0?
  3. When a ring is on the black where the floor goal area is, will it be a 1 or 0?
  4. If a ring is touching the floor goal area but another ring is on top of it but touching one of the post, will it be 1 or 0?
  5. If the robot release the bonus tray and somehow have not manage to allow all the rings to flow away, will it still be 20 or 0?
  6. If the bonus is release and 1 or 2 rings touches the slanting part below the bonus tray, will it still be 20 or 0?

I put the picture according to the questions



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#2

Scored – A Ring is Scored if it is not touching a Robot and meets one of the following criteria:

  1. The Ring is contacting the Floor Goal
  2. Any part of a Post is within the volume defined by the outer edges of the Ring (i.e. part of the Ring is encircling or surrounding the Post)

Floor Goal – The section of the Floor bounded by the inner edges of the field perimeter and the black line which runs the entire length of the field and passes under the support structures of the Posts. The black line and the support structures of the Posts are part of the Floor Goal

1 - 1 point for the bottom ring
2 - 3 points, all rings are touching the floor
3 - 3 points, all touching
4 - 3 points, all touching

Released – The Bonus Tray is Released when both Latches have been activated such that there are no more Rings contacting the Bonus Tray (i.e. the Bonus Tray is empty).

Bonus Tray – The tray like structure consisting of VEX IQ pieces attached to the end of the field perimeter with dimensions of approximately 15” (381 mm) wide and 3” (76 mm) deep. The Bonus Tray begins the Match with fifteen (15) Rings and can be Released by Robots by activating the Latches to earn points.

5 - 0 It looks like the one in 5 has a ring touching part of the tray (the green one on the far left). I think this is very unlikely to happen.
6 - 20 The bar on the floor is not part of the tray.

#3

But how about pict number 4. if we see clearly the green ring is touching the post. is it considered scored?

#4

**Scored – A Ring is Scored if it is not touching a Robot and meets one of the following criteria:

  1. The Ring is contacting the Floor Goal
  2. Any part of a Post is within the volume defined by the outer edges of the Ring (i.e. part of the Ring is encircling or surrounding the Post)

Floor Goal – The section of the Floor bounded by the inner edges of the field perimeter and the black line which runs the entire length of the field and passes under the support structures of the Posts. The black line and the support structures of the Posts are part of the Floor Goal**

The ring is contacting the goal, as the support structure is part of the goal. The above text is taken from the manual.

#5

Thanks Sankeydd, I read the rules, matched them to the pictures and came up with the same answers you did. Thanks for your ability to channel Karthik’s “Well lets look at the rules and see which one’s apply” I’ve found through the years, there are very, very few gray areas in the rules. And if there are, it’s normally a hint on how you can play the game.

#6

I think that there is one big gray area in the Ringmaster rules right now:

Look at picture #3: All 7 of those Red & Blue Rings (that are still in their starting spots) are “touching” the “support structures of the Posts”. They start touching those plastic pieces, and therefore by a strict reading of the rules the field starts with 7 points scored (We all know this was not intended).

I would like to see a change to the floor goal definition that says: **… and the support structures of the Posts, excluding the triangle shaped parts that are nearest center of the field. **That would remove this gray area.

Paul

#7

This is no longer a gray area. They will count. It is in the official q and a.

#8

So… based on that. A robot that doesn’t move at all, will score 7 points for those rings touching the support structures. However, if the robot drives through that area, and nudges the rings such that they are not touching, they can get less than 7 points.

This doesn’t make sense to me!

What if the field reseter doesn’t get the rings quite touching the support structure? Does that make the points that a team will get subject to sloppy field resetters?

Paul

#9

If the students are counting on these points, they can check and see for the field to be reset. And life is about decisions, do you go for the rings and risk missing points?

I think the kids can handle it!

#10