But the manual says there is which has more athority.
I am betting that they will use something like a pitch count counter that they just press with their thumb everytime a pass is made.
This post is about Over Under
So basically I had this idea a while ago I had this idea, I have a feeling it’s not legal but I forgot to ask one of the head refs while I was at worlds, Could you have theoretically made a robot that would flip open the Over Under net then had another robot or your own robot go over and match load your triballs straight into the net? I know it’s not in season anymore but I’m still curious.
do the balls ark if shot from like two wheels?
Hooks like some high stakes posts got merged into a rapid relay thread. I’ll answer em anyway.
Check out SG6-c
SC5 answers your question. If they are tied, none of them are placed.
Nope. This was not allowed.
@jpearman I think you split this into the wrong topic…
But to answer your question, no is not legal. The note on SG5 prohibits lifting the net structure (both from the base cones and rotating the top part).
Read the manual please, it answers most of your questions. Since you’re new though (my two strike policy), see SG6 C, which clearly states the answer
There is nothing prohibiting this, so yes.
yes, my mistake. wasn’t expecting a question about last years game.
over under type game
Can you have a conveyor that goes into the goals and the other robot passes to the conveyor and the conveyor moves the ball into the goal?
I think so, but the conveyor and bot cannot ever exceed 15" high, which means you can’t score into the top 2 goals this way. Thus, a clawbot, for example, can be competitive but only score in the lower 2 goals. The only way to get the top 2 goals is for the ball to catch air.
Only into the 2 lower goals as those are at/below the 15” build height restriction.
Also, you can use a conveyor to “drop” a ball into the other robot and that would count as a pass (as long as there is a period where you both don’t possess the ball at the same time). Similarly, you certainly could have your robot pass a ball to the other robot’s conveyor.
There is no illegality to touching the goal. Just be sure to stay under 15 inches.
It depends. If the angle is linear, than so will (mostly) the shot. When the shooter becomes well, at an angle the shots trajectory will change. This is something teams will half to test with.
The game manual says that the refs are intended to use their scoring iPads while the match is happening. They are actively scoring each match.
This would be difficult because of the height limit.
The rules are silent about how balls are placed into goals as long as:
- The robot doesn’t expand beyond the 23"x72" footprint and 15" height limit <R4>
- The robot doesn’t directly contact a switch to clear it <SC3>
So that would be a perfectly legal robot to field, but you’d definitely want to think about how it would perform in many different scenarios. Skills? Paired with another similar robot?
Doing some really rough estimating and assuming (for a teamwork match):
- Both robots start with a ball loaded
- Loading a ball, passing a ball, and shooting a ball each take 1 second
- Loading and Shooting take place simultaneously
- Every ball shot counts as a goal
- There is always a ball ready to load immediately when needed
I get 30 passes and 31 goals in 60 seconds, which gives a score of 395 with 4 clear switches, 334 with 3, 273 with 2, and 152 with 1.
I don’t think that’s likely to be achieved even by the most practiced and regimented teams though, simply because getting a ball from the pickup zone to the loading station in 2 seconds seems like a stretch.
If we further assume that with rapid loading both robots can shoot once per second in the last 15 seconds, that gets 53 goals, but only 23 passes, and a total score of 333 with 4 switches cleared, 286 with 3, 239 with 2, and 146 with 1.
Clearly the passing bonuses are worth the slower loading in this contrived scenario, but I’m interested to see how it will play out in practice.
I strongly dislike this game. Live reffing seems like a bad idea for many reasons. Referees are not always correct even with evidence in front of them including other games. (for example triball in goal) Refs make lots of crucial mistakes during gameplay, so I definitely wouldn’t trust them to score a game live. My question is, why is there match loading for IQ but not VRC? And why are the robots so big? Does anyone have a good response to my questions? go quackheads VRC!! 
this is not true as a ball can only be counted for 1 pass before it must be scored before being counted again.