Weird situation in Alliance Selection

Today, I attended a local tournament. Our competition had 21 teams, so everyone was going to the elimination rounds. The first place team going into elimination rounds had the idea to make sure that two really good team would not get paired together. If they picked the third place team, the third place team would deny the alliance. Because of this, the second and third place teams could not be allianced. This started an outrage, so every other team that was asked by the first place team to alliance with them, they all denied them. This caused all of the alliances everyone originally picked to become invalid, so we all had to come up with new alliances on the fly. So because of that first place team, all of the alliances that we all had originally planned to get, we couldn’t get them. That is so jacked lol

Based on that, you would have 8 one-robot alliances since none of the teams could accept an invitation from any of the other robots.

I didn’t explain it well enough, sorry. Out of the other top 9 teams that were below the number one team, all 9 of those teams denied the alliance request. By the rules, I agree with you, but they couldn’t do that lol. We found that as an aggravatingly funny situation.

You say that it is because of the first seeded team, but its really due to the other 8. If I were there I would probably applaud the number 1 seeded team for their strategic thinking. The alliance selection is often the most important deciding factor in who wins or loses a tournament, and that first seeded team had an excellent strategy for the alliance selection that could have won them the tournament, despite what I can only assume are their just barely above average scoring abilities.

Don’t know the little or subtle details involved.
But off hand, I don’t see anything that the 1st seeded team did wrong.

Of course they would need to, and want to make sure they got the strongest alliance and at the same time, weaken the other alliances.

I don’t understand why the uproar when they want to choose the next strongest team.

Stranger and similar things have happened, as described here: https://vexforum.com/t/create-a-logo-turtle-winter-challenge/15184/1

About halfway through the thread, Rick TYler’s reply to my post tells a story not unlike yours. Sorry I can’t give a post number - I’m still figuring out the new system :frowning:

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I’m not saying that what happened was a bad thing. I’m not agreeing with what happened either. It was a funny situation, but I have never seen that happen. It was smart to separate the two teams because of how good they were, but the 8 other teams that said no to joining the number one team in the elimination rounds really surprised me. And I’m not trying to talk bad about the event. I’m just stating a story that had happened at a competition that I attended. It was weird and unexpected. And thanks for sharing that with me ManicMechanic. I read his story as well lol.

If anyone else has stories like this from their competitions, please share them. I’d like to see if anything funny or weird has happened at an event you have attended.

In the first competition we ever attended as a vex team, there were 19 teams. This meant that only one team would be disqualified, and we were that one team. Can’t say I didn’t expect it, but that was pretty disappointing.

That hasent happened to us yet. Our very first vex competition every was terrible in the begining. We went in with basically an upgraded clawbot with only two wheels coded and a terrible autonomus. Idk what happened, but we somehow went to the finals. And we were faced against good teams throughout the qualifiers. We got a huge amount of beginners luck lol.

I was there… Much more to the story that does not need to be stated again. It is in another thread. It was wild and crazy, but there is much more to it that was observed behind the scenes. In the end it still backfired.

Yeah i was there.

We had another weird situation at a tournament in Seattle this weekend. There was 24 teams, but one of them left right before alliance selections, leaving 23 teams. For some reason, they decided to give the 1st seed only 2 teams, while the rest of the alliances had 3.

Wow that had to be an awkward situation!

Bill R.

There should have only been 7 alliances in that situation with alliance one being given a pass in the QF. Two of the 23 teams would not have been selected. Alternatively, as has been happening in SoCal, all alliances should have been of two teams. Did the #1 seed eventually win?