@NightsRosario I did 10 hours worth of research I’m pretty sure I know what I’m talking about. Thus I am not making an assumption. Plus how did you get an assumption from this?..From out performing most claws? I never said that it is the best design all I said was pneumatics is not the best design
So we all know claws are good, but what on the robot maks it better?
Rear dumpers seem to be common, but how do they compare to a well built 6bar.
Care to share, or at least summarize?
There have been several successful pneumatic claws, 62 is the first one that comes to mind, but there’s many more.
Also, you say that you outperform most pneumatic claws, but your record of 5-10-1 at your lone Starstruck competition begs to differ. Research is all well and good, but claiming that your robot is better than most should usually be justified.
I’m going to have to agree on the whole here… 10 hours of research won’t tell you more than 1 hour of research, and that certainly won’t tell you ( @DylanMckenzie33 ) more than 10 hours of prototyping (which still isn’t enough to demonstrate understanding). Unless your research entails prototyping, I’d rethink your methodology if I were you.
Also, competition results are what matters. I’ve seen a lot of people talk about all the things they’ve implemented here on the forum, and I find it very amusing when they flop horribly because they don’t put in dozens of hours a week like I do, or others do and don’t have adequate testing or driver practice.
Best of luck, though. I don’t know whether you have or have not built an amazing claw like you say.
I started this https://vexforum.com/t/answered-cortex-and-joystick-not-staying-tethered/18215/1 thread that talks bought my design.
I am a teammate of Dylan’s and also driver of 6526 D and will attempt to explain. We ourselves have not tried out a pneumatic claw but one of our fellow teams have. Each design is equally good in their own rights, but each design does have certain strengths and weaknesses. Pneumatic claws are much faster to deploy, and don’t run the risk of burning out. Motor-driven claws are slower and can burn out if you apply pressure on them for long periods of time. A benefit of a motor-driven claw is that you can position it any way you want and are not limited either being fully compressed or fully extended. I find that this is a huge benefit when maneuvering in the field. I also find that motor-driven claw is a bit better a holding large amounts of stars for short periods of time. I can not and will not say that our claw is unequivocally better than a pneumatic claw, but I prefer it.
Also, about the ranking, the first eight matches of the tournament we were running a dumper and didn’t move due to a short in one of the wires 
(We lost 7 matches and won one). Our first model of claw brought us 6 wins and 2 defeats. In the third round of qualifying matches we took home 7 matches and lost one. We are continually trying to perfect our claw but currently it can lift up to 6 stars easily and eight if they are positioned right. We have done some practice skills runs and have gotten a average of 40 and high of 48.
Anyhow, I hope this clears things up. Have a good one!
One benefit I have found of rear dumpers are that with enough momentum they can easily fling the stars in the far zone where as 6 bars are limited to just dropping the stars in the near zone.
We dump backwards with a six bar
us too.
The only problem ive seen with rear dumpera is its harder to dig out from around the fence.