I have to say I was doubtful at first but I’ve done my testing and its actually working very well for our team. I will take back most of what I’ve said before, I still think that flex wheels are more consistent and have some pros but not having them isn’t hurting as much as I had thought. Plus not having them saves a motor (or a lot of messy chain) for whatever you want it for too. We didn’t go the route of pick up like that jhawk/9motor gang video but more like 1000a or 74947k. I have found it just as consistent and fast this way and it saves us a motor. and with 11w we now have a way more unique design that were very proud of, plus our drive train is now 77w 450 on 3.25 with piston wall stakes. It definitely takes some tuning on the pick up though, i also am looking at changing the hooks to be pointer with this style.