2019 NorCal RI3D Reveal

The black wire wrap is called wire loom: we picked it up at Home Depot, but it is also available on Amazon and Robosource.

The wire tether was actually surprisingly tough and resistant to damage: robots could drive over it without damaging the wires. As for handling an opponent tugging on the tether and damaging the wires through pulling on them, you cannot easily see it in the reveal, but we had regular rope running in the tether along with the wires. This rope was tied onto the two robots so that if the tether is pulled, the rope would take the stress instead of the wires.

As a result of these measures, we believe the chance of wire damage is very low.

Adding on to what @Bobtheblob_5327B said, our large wall is made completely out of steel and is a 5-wide sandwiched by two 2-wides. The result of this is that the wall is extremely strong: even we could not noticeably bend it by pushing and we are (I hope :slight_smile:) stronger than two typical drivetrains pushing at the same time.

Combined with the fact that our wall is at least three feet shorter than VCAT’s was, we think that it would be extremely difficult to break the wall unless there were two specially designed 8 motor drive opponents (at which point we still have two mobile robots defending them and win the match regardless).

How heavy was the wall, and how much less tough was it when made of Aluminum?

The larger wall is 11lbs, and the smaller wall is 5lbs. Both are almost exclusively steel c channels; I imagine that the system would be about 1/3 the weight if made with aluminum. You would be wise to bulk up an aluminum wall with high strength axles or buckets of loose steel nylocks, etc.

As an aside, VEX steel is significantly cheaper than aluminum, so it might make sense to just purchase steel if that’s your intent.

Given your long wall is approximately 8’ and your short wall is approximately 3 feet, why wouldn’t you deploy just past the dividing line for the 11’8" of the width of the field. (Or otherwise construct a full-field divider.) If you did so with one or both of your mobile units on the opponent side they would be in a world of hurt. At the same time, your partner would have up to 18 extra cubes to work with, heavily biased to purple.

Well don’t you think it would be hard to get both of your opposing robots to be on the other side of the field and only having one very long 12 foot long wall would be very very hard to make as well.

Because if they deployed past the line and the opposing robots tried to push through, the wall would catch on the towers, and would thus count as grappling onto field elements

If deployed correctly, a ~12 foot wall actually wouldn not touch more than one face of the towers, and thus not be grappling.

However the reason we did not pursue a wall like this is that first of all, we would have to dramatically reduce the walls strength to get more expansion (it’s right in size with this design). In addition, even with a wall deployed across half the field, the opponents could still score cubes, which means there is a chance they could outcycle our alliance partner. By blocking off the scoring zones, we try to ensure that even if the opponents are faster at stacking, they can’t actually score their stacks.

But if another robot forces a robot into penalty the penalty shouldn’t count.

Remember that wallbots lose some protection though.
And if that was allowed, then the match would be super boring to watch.
It’s a bit of a grey area

The only way you aren’t going win every match is if they pair you with another wall-bot.

Or a jankbot who can’t overcome the excessive defense to outstack your opponent’s auton stack. But the probability of that is pretty low, and only in qualifying rounds.

Jankbot"
So you mean me

What’s the car is a Jankbot?

A crappy bot that can’t do anything

Or a really badly built one

No, A jank bot can perform really well sometimes in competition. Jankbots are just low-effort, bad quality bots almost purely off looks but janky mechanisms definitely play a role. I would classify a robot that can’t do anything as jank but I’d also include robots that can do well.
I’ve seen some relatively jank bots straight up nae nae in competition.

Anyways, we should keep the thread on topic.

The thread is never on topic.

Aight bois back on topic.
Let’s think up of ways to actually beat the darn thing.