Question about an autonomous robot on the field: are you able to move the robot back to a starting position during a program or do you have to wait for the program to stop? If you’re using one program and a touch sensor, do the same rules apply?
I don’t think you have to wait for it to stop.
Check the game manual though, because when I was doing it in my first comp, it would ram into a red block holder and then just keep moving, in which case we would stop the program (bc it failed) and then put it somewhere else.
Still, check the game manual, because I’m not too sure.
Assuming you are in VRC (although this should also be true in IQ [you mentioning a touch sensor does suggest IQ I suppose] and VAIRC, please try to specify next time):
Once the autonomous period starts in a match, autonomous means “no humans” (G11). Purposely deactivating your program because it ‘failed’ would be a violation of this rule unless you were instructed to do so by the head ref.
And without question, you cannot put the robot back to its starting position once the match has started. Otherwise you would be violating G9 “hands out of the field” or even potentially S1.
Not sure that is the case in VEX IQ. I have seen several teams run two programs in IQ over the years - typically one for the left side and one for the right side.
Alert the ref of your intention before the match. All blocks in the robot back in supply zone. Reset the robot back to a starting position. Run (or rerun) the autonomous.
Same setup for team challenge or skills drive. If need to reset or jammed/broke - alert ref. Put down controller. remove any touching blocks to supply zone . Fix robot. Reset to a starting position. Then continue.
Maybe you’re thinking other Vex levels than IQ?
I don’t have rules for IQ in front of me - goes without saying check that first…
My reference point is only VEX IQ rules if it helps.
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im assuming hes talkin about vex iq
@benlipperlover what program are you talking about
I’m not sure if this was fully answered. We have a similar question (VEX IQ). I did not find the answer in the game manual.
The team is running an autonomous program. If the wheels or intake are still spinning, but they want to reset the bot at a starting location can they do so? They would then restart either by using a touch sensor to move to another slot to start a second program.
If this is legal or not and someone knows where this is located in the manual that would be super helpful.
Thank you!
Look at appendix B, specifically RSC5, regarding handling the robot during skills: VIQRC Full Volume Game Manual - VEX Robotics
As your read the manual, remember That the manual tells you things you must do, and things you can’t do. There is no way the game manual can possible address everything you might be doing, so it’s all legal unless specifically prohibited. For example, to rephrase your questions:
“If they have red hair and blue eyes, but they want to reset the bot at a starting location can they do so?” Do you see any prohibitions in the game manual on this one?
Makes sense to me. There was an instance where it seemed like our students were being told that the first program had to fully conclude and run its course before they could reset the bot.
I obviously did not interject in that situation and the team proceeded as instructed. However, I want to clarify the rule before I provide any instruction to the team. I’ll probably ask our organization what their take it on it. After reading RSC5 as you indicated, I see nothing prohibiting them from doing as they had originally intended.
The kids are all first year 4th and 5th grade.
This is a coaching opportunity, to ensure your students understand the game manual, and if something like this comes up, you can coach the students to speak to the referee and show them the manual, and if needed talk to the head referee (when there is an opportunity) about the rules. Often “skills referees” are lesser trained volunteers, who also may or may not, be willing to discuss the rules; however, every event has a Certified Head Referee who is ultimately responsible for all the scoring and skills referees to follow the game manual (or if your students happen to be wrong (not this time) will help your students to understand the rules).
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