I might be missing it somewhere, but I can’t find how an Autonomous Win Point helps you. I see the three tasks that get you an autonomous win point, but does that add to your score? In previous years, it appears that it helped your ranking. Does it matter in the final rounds?
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awp helps your rankings. You can get up to 3 win points per match. 2 for winning and 1 for the awp. And this helps your rankings. The more win points you have the higher you will be tanked in quals which helps you secire a better alliance partner. For example we went 4-4 at the speedway signature event. But because we had 7/8 possible awp we were still ranked 13th. To put this into perspective we had an equal amount of win points as some teams that went 7-1 with only 1/8 awp. And other teams that went 4-4 were ranked 60th and didnt make elims. Were we secured a spot as 6th seed and made finals. So awp is insanley important.
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All your questions are answered in the Tournament Section of the Game Manual.
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2 AWP’s is like winning another match. The AWP is pretty easy to get this year if both teams in an alliance do their part.
1 team has to score their own alliance triball in their own goal.
1 team has to remove the triball from their alliance colored match load zone.
Either team (at least one of them) has to touch their alliance colored elevation bars.
Do these 3 things while not breaking any other rules and you have AWP.
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Very helpful. Thanks! After qualifications do you change autonomous strategy since AWP doesn’t matter any more?
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Yup. since bar touch isnt remotley helpful in elims we have strategies written that dont do that so taht we can score an extra triball or 2
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Best practice is to have multiple auton programs and use a different one for different situations.
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If we use two different auton programs, then do we have to program the robot twice, one for each slot?
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Welcome to vex forum! To answer your questionno. You do not. Whay ypu can do is program an auton selector or a GUI (graphical user interface) which allows you to use your brain like a touch tablet of sorts and let you pick which autons you wantto run.
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@Fish_the_bird You don’t need to create separate programs, you can make an auton selector to select which autonomous you want to run, maybe using a limit switch and when you click on it, it will change the autonomous that will run
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AWP Help you. They will with your Rank/Score INSANLEY.
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Another question about AWPs. At my last competition on the big screen showing scores and auto winners, only sometimes it said “+1 WP” for the autonomous winner. Is there some things that qualify you for an AWP?
For further questions on gameplay rules please refer to game manual. From SC7
An Autonomous Win Point is awarded to any Alliance that has completed the following tasks at the end of the Autonomous Period:
Removed the Triball from the Alliance’s Match Load Zone that coincides with their Starting Tiles. For example, in Figure 21, the red Alliance must remove the Triball that begins in the bottom-left Match Load Zone, adjacent to Robot 1’s Starting Tiles.
Scored at least one Alliance Triball in the Alliance’s own Goal.
Ended the Autonomous Period with at least one Robot contacting their own Elevation Bar.
Not violated any other rules.
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Winning autonomous and the autonomous win point are 2 different things.
The Autonomous winner alliance gets 8 points, 4 points to each alliance if its a tie, and 0 points under certain conditions.
Autonomous win point is independent of the autonomous winner. It’s 3 tasks that you must complete during the autonomous period. One, both, or neither alliance could get an autonomous win point. It adds no points to the score of that match.
If your team does all three of these things, can you get a solo AWP?
Also, in addition, are you allowed to start with the bot in/partially in the match load zone and/or only have the tri-ball partially within it and still be eligible for an AWP?
It is difficult to complete all 3 tasks yourself. Autonomous Win Point is awarded to the alliance regardless of which team on the alliance completed the tasks. Unless your alliance partner was a no show they are also going to get the win point if the conditions are met even if they didn’t have a bot on the field.
Review SG8 for starting position. You need to be touching your starting tiles and not touching the things it says you can’t touch. You are allowed to touch the match load bar so starting on the match load bar is allowed as long as your not touching things your not allowed to touch and meet all other starting conditions like staying within size limits. Also note that you can position the green match load triball in your adjacent match load zone as long as you position it legally which includes it touching the match load zone tiles. There is no legal way to place the match load zone triball so that it meets the autonomous win point condition.
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According to SG9 each robot has to stay in its own offensive zone. So it appears that the only way a robot can score all three items for the autonomous win point would be if they shot a triball from the opposing side into their own goal. This is difficult to do without a push, but possible.
I’ve seen one youtube video where it was done one time with only one bot on the field. There is no way to tell if they had the goal set to the proper height. I’ve never seen it done or heard anyone claim it being successful in a match.
Once, we actually got extremely lucky and got a perfect shot into the goal in a match in auton (it might have even happened twice, I’m not sure) without any tuning of the shot beforehand, and we actually got a triball into the goal from the other side three times in auton at that competition (somehow) but the other times somehow one of the opponent robots’ auton pushed it in. Here is the competition livestream (we are 892Y, and the perfect shot I know of happened in SF (around 3:27:25)): Robotics VEX MS HW Robotics Challenge on Livestream. I tried to replicate this after the competition and was not able to, so it must have just been a lot of luck.
Was the goal height checked? That triball rolled in. By design that shouldn’t happen. The ones I’ve seen get launched in are direct shots with more velocity. Triballs looked to be going in easier than they should have for that whole match. I’m checking goal height if I see any triball go into a goal without being pushed in.
Was the multi possession at 3:30:06 called?