Did it count at the last second? It determines the champ!
matches are scored after all robots and objects come to rest, not exactly when the timer ends, so yes, whatever happened at the end there (Iām not in iq so I donāt know how pitching in is played) does count.
When itās over, itās over. Scores will be calculated for all Matches immediately after the Match is complete, and once all Robots and Balls on the Field come to rest.
In IQ the bots can continue after the buzzer, so any action that bots take after the match would not count. The ref has to watch and determine if it happens after the buzzer.
Thereās no disablement built in to the field control? that must get confusing at times.
Well, clearly I donāt really know what Iām talking about from my vrc perspective, Iād assumed that the āafter all objects come to restā clause would be treated the same way in both programs but I guess not.
Quite true⦠But I can set up 95% of a 6 field IQ event in one class period.
There is less to watch for as well. Two bots only on a smaller field. With the bots hanging on the opposite sides of the field that will get a little tricky.
In 2019 I could set up 100% of a six field event in a class period. Extra 12ā is a pain with more tables and setting the tiles.
And that lone ball in the corner does count.
If Iām within 5% of 2019 Foster I would call that a great success! Iām actually looking into building a few of those rolling tables from Virus!
They didnāt end up counting it, but I really like the crowd reaction. That ball seemed like it needed to be in the corralā¦
I wouldnāt count it because the buzzer started before they shot the ball. So since they shot the ball after the buzzer, it doesnāt count. But because you arenāt allowed to look at match replays because youāre a referee, itād be close. If they had shot it before the buzzer, it would count because itās when the game object comes to rest though.
Iām with @FRC973, the practical ādisablementā in IQ is the beginning of the buzzer like VRC, in other games this was tough to gauge as a ref (especially next levelš). So yes, since the hall was shot after time had expired, the ball should be seen as āstill inside the robotā so to speak.
[A convoluted way to say āI agreeā but I wanted to give my input too]
It all depends on what the ref saw at the time. Nothing is ever changed after the fact
For an entire day they have been getting the 3-2-1-stop and the buzzer. They all know the rules. I look at is the shot went off at the buzzer, it rolled into a bad place.
It will be a good lesson learned for teams, that last second shot may not work out well.
This is a tricky one. G12 of course says:
When itās over, itās over. Scores will be calculated for all Matches immediately after the Match is complete, and once all Robots and Balls on the Field come to rest.
But G12.c says:
Any Scoring which takes place after the Match due to Robots continuing to move will not count.
So is it considered āscoringā when you decrease your score, or only if you increase your score? I am kind of in the camp of if you continue after the buzzer, you canāt get any more points, but if your actions cause you to lose points, well, lesson learned.
I think the consensus is that it should not count, but you had better hope the judge saw it like you see it. This is putting a big āaskā on the judge for a quick timing score/descore at the end of the match. If you are inaccurate in your shooting, you may want to hold fire until your shots are more reliable.
The judges were probably busy doing interviews, and donāt particularly care about any particular match scores. However, in my experience as a certified referee for IQ over the past several years, the end-of-match conditions are something we watch pretty carefully every year because there is not a match controller.
Noted.
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