Today, the VEX Robotics Game Design Committee, in collaboration with both VEX Robotics and the RECF, released an update to the Game Manual via the official RobotEvents Q&A system to rule G4 regarding the Student Centered Policy in our competitions. We strongly condemn the circumvention of the Stude…

I agree and the code is totally learnable, it just requires a team to take the time to learn the algorithm, which I do not think is an unfair ask. All it does it respects the time and effort of those who choose to write their own code. And if it takes a team extra time to learn a piece of code, then…

[image] Mentor_355U: One is legal, because Vex supplied it, but it’s closed-source nature prevents the students from learning how it works. perhaps I will prepare some pseudo code and explain how the only relevant functions work, source code would not be as helpful as it needs to deal with so…

[image] Team30809S: For example, the difference between George Gillard PID and just using the LemLib PID class; one teaches you how it works, the other provides limited explanation of the inner works (outside of "go to declaration in VSCode). I will say that I believe there is value in both. …

[image] Mentor_355U: Part of the reason the median team’s code quality is poor, I believe, is that the teams simply don’t know what “good” code looks like. I try and address that, response this year was underwhelming. [image] High Stakes - season code request VEX V5 Technical…

[image] jpearman: perhaps I will prepare some pseudo code and explain how the only relevant functions work I think this would be great. I section of the knowledge base that covers what is inside the black box of VEXcode. Swinging for the fences here… jpearman could write an advanced VEXcode…

[image] DougMoyers: I think this would be great. I section of the knowledge base that covers what is inside the black box of VEXcode That would be Tim’s area. I’m just proposing 20-30 lines of simple pseudo code back in the day, when times were simpler (and I didn’t work for VEX), it used t…

[image] jpearman: I try and address that, response this year was underwhelming. I applaud your efforts for sure. [image] Mentor_355U: Part of the reason the median team’s code quality is poor, I believe, is that the teams simply don’t know what “good” code looks like. Back to this, an…

[image] jpearman: back in the day, when times were simpler (and I didn’t work for VEX), it used to be ok for adults to provide code. I remember when it was ok to have an adult “coach” in the alliance station - that was not a great optic :slight_smile:

I’m just posting the question here, not trying to argue. I believe discussion can lead to improvement. But if you feel that differing opinions aren’t welcome, I won’t respond further.

I believe discussions made in good faith can lead to improvement.

G4 Update & Statement from VEX & RECF

VEX V5 Robotics Competition

jpearman October 2, 2025, 11:15pm 88

That would be Tim’s area.
I’m just proposing 20-30 lines of simple pseudo code

back in the day, when times were simpler (and I didn’t work for VEX), it used to be ok for adults to provide code.