In previous years, concave plows have counted as possession. Regarding the plow made of net, that would just act as a concave surface. The manual also specifically mentions “by using a flat face of the Robot.”
Thanks, I saw someone saying it might be different this year as plowiing iis specifically encouraged in the rules.
It could be different, but in the screenshot you posted it gives an example of plowing specifically as a flat face with nothing actively doing work. So they are encouraging plowing in that they mention it exists, but so far the game manual sounds the same as previous years.
It’s usually defined as “if the robot turns, the game object should not turn with the robot.” So you could push a bunch of pieces toward a goal, but you couldn’t use a net to contain them and make sure they all got pushed where you want. Q&A will be the only way to clarify more.
Even if it’s mildly concave? If its pneumatics deployed would it count as a mechanism?
All of us on the forum can only advise to go by the rules in the game manual, which require possession to be one cup and pin at a time. There’s limited info this early in the season about all the edges cases of what counts as possession.
However, the rules explicitly say that:
“Teams which employ plowing strategies are encouraged to clearly demonstrate that none of the Scoring Objects are being possessed”
And the only official example given so far is a flat face with no active mechanisms.
Past year’s rules are not guaranteed to be followed, but a “mildly concave” surface that needs to be activated by pneumatics to work would be possession 99% of the time for previous games.
If changing the direction the robot moves would result in a change in the direction of the game object, it would count as possession. Even if it is pneumatics deployed.
It really doesn’t matter is it mildly or even if it is flat or how it is being deployed.
As long as the game elements/objects turned together with the robot (i.e. game elements are being “controlled” in the direction), then it is considered as possession.
But I do echo what @voleary mentioned - do check with the official Q&A.
We can only informed you of the past seasons’ rulings.
Did you not read the game manual? It says plowing is allowed. We have to wait to see the definition of plowing don’t go giving advice if you haven’t read the rules. Just wait and see what the definition of plowing is
Oh… just realised you are replying to me and asking me to read the manual.
And also asking me to stop giving advice?
Noted…
From a VEX veteran since Elevation
(and that have gone through multiple seasons that had plowing)
Here you go…
From High Stakes..
Plowing – A Robot / Scoring Object status. A Robot is considered to be Plowing a Scoring Object if the Robot is intentionally moving it in a preferred direction with a flat or convex face of the Robot or with another Scoring Object
b. Plowing multiple Mobile Goals is permitted.
From Over Under…
Plowing - A Robot is considered to be Plowing Triballs if the Robot is inten
tionally moving them in a preferred direction with a flat or convex face of the Robot.
Note: There are no rules prohibiting Plowing multiple Triballs.
And just in case you missed this concluding statement from me…
Think maybe it is not about whether i read this seasn’s manual, but more of you were not well-versed in previous seasons’ manual (which to be fair, there isn’t any requirement for you to be familiar with them).
Plowing has always been legal in all seasons, not just this season.
I understand. Thank you.
